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Subject: Re: ot. is the gcc 3.3 compiler just as fast as microsoft's now?? nt.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:25:15 08/05/03

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On August 05, 2003 at 15:21:06, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On August 05, 2003 at 14:16:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 05, 2003 at 13:02:50, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On August 05, 2003 at 11:15:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 05, 2003 at 10:45:41, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 05, 2003 at 09:53:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 05, 2003 at 09:24:07, ERIQ wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have to disagree. I have performed a number of experiments and found msvc
>>>>>faster some of the time and gcc faster some of the time. It all depends on a
>>>>>number of factors that are not completely predictable.
>>>>>
>>>>>The experiments consisted of simulataneously dropping CD copies of each compiler
>>>>>from the roof of my home and observing which CD impacted the ground first. They
>>>>>never seemed to impact the ground at exactly the same time, but there was no
>>>>>clear favorite either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>:)
>>>
>>>Joking aside, how much slower on average is gcc compared to msvc, and more
>>>importantly what are the final results like between the two?
>>>
>>>                                       Albert
>>
>>
>>For me, using an intel xeon processor, gcc is 20-25% behind MSVC.  The Intel
>>compiler is less than 10% slower for me.  I can't give numbers for AMD
>>processors.
>
>Well, this just doesn't jive with my results at all! What sort of testing
>methodology did use?
>
>An easy error to make is to hold both CDs horizontally before releasing them.
>The reason being is that it is very difficult to hold both CDs horizontally
>exactly right and being off just a little will bias the result.
>
>Instead, hold both CDs vertically with the plane of both cds parallel to the
>wind direction before releasing them. This gave the most consistent results in
>my experiments.
>
>Another issue is, I realized that I knew which CD contained MSVC and which one
>contained GCC 3.3 and that I could be biasing the timing of my release of each
>CD to favor the open source (GCC) program over the commercial product (MSVC).
>
>I neatly solved the problem by wearing a blindfold and drawing the CDs from my
>lucky hat (after shaking it vigorously). Naturally, I kept the blindfold on
>during the release phase of the experiment for the same reason, but I found it
>very difficult at first to pull the blindfold off in time to observe the impact
>phase. However, with a little practice, I found I could do it.
>
>But the one really important lesson I learned is to remember the next time I
>perform this experiment, to be sure to remove the blindfold before exiting the
>roof.



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