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Subject: Re: Qv3PN

Author: Frank Phillips

Date: 05:44:41 08/08/03

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On August 08, 2003 at 04:16:34, martin fierz wrote:

>On August 07, 2003 at 15:08:58, Frank Phillips wrote:
>
>>Calling my own chess ability modest would be a gross overstatement of my skill.
>>Any general insights from chess players (rather than computer analysis) on the
>>following position, which my program lost as black despite thinking it was
>>winning, would be welcome.
>>
>>[D]8/Q7/5pk1/5n2/6pp/8/5K2/8 b - -
>
>i recently had exactly this type of ending; Q v N+fgh-pawns; luckily i was on
>the side with the queen. in my game, the pawns were even further back, and it
>was an easy win for me. however, i don't agree with some of the replies to your
>post; this is not as clear as some people claim. e.g. by giving black a bit
>further advancement it looks like a draw?!:
>
>[D]8/Q7/8/5nk1/5ppp/8/5K2/8 w - -

>cheers
>  martin

Amazing.  I played around with a few positions before posting.  As you say the
answer is sensitive to the position of the pawns and white's king.  I did not do
any systematic study, but based partly on Dan's comments below decided to change
the evaluation so that my program believes it is more likely to win with the
queen unless it has at least a rook.

Frank



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