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Subject: Re: Forget it

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 23:05:16 08/10/03

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On August 11, 2003 at 01:40:11, Harald Faber wrote:

>On August 11, 2003 at 00:30:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 10, 2003 at 12:28:25, Heinz-Josef Schumacher wrote:
>>
>>>>So a senseful recommendation IMO is to play and test the programs either
>>>"out-of-the-box" or with a complete set of tbs.
>>>
>>>Yes, it's my opion too. To test with the incomplete "Fritz Endgame Turbo" is
>>>stupid non-sense! If the SSDF people don't have a complete set of 5 men tbs,
>>>they should test better only with 4 men tbs!
>>e to
>>
>>Why?  A _sensible_ program can do just fine without complete EGTB's.
>>Particularly
>>when you have the case of (say) KXPKX, but you don't have the KXQKX table to
>>encourage the promotion correctly.
>>
>>That is solvable.
>>
>>Since it has caused significant problems for many programs for a long time, it
>>is
>>something that deserves fixing.
>
>
>Bob, it is always the same senseless discussion.
>You say a "good" program solves this problem, we ask why?
>This is the same topic as with mating with knight+bishop. Implement or not while
>the tbs solve it.

Not everyone has the resources for tbs.  In their absence, it's kind of silly
for a GM strength program to not understand these problems, especially programs
for which someone paid money.  What a jip.  Embarrassing too, since some amatuer
programs do understand them.

I think Bob has a good point.

MH


>As a programmer I wouldn't waste my time implementing already solved and
>available (!) knowledge.



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