Author: Slater Wold
Date: 21:46:43 08/12/03
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On August 13, 2003 at 00:44:07, Slater Wold wrote: >On August 13, 2003 at 00:35:20, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: > >>On August 12, 2003 at 23:44:31, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On August 12, 2003 at 19:34:45, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: >>> >>>>[D]1r5k/7p/5PP1/1q6/p2p1N1K/2b1pBP1/8/3Q4 b >>>>The real question here is at what ply depth do strong programs see that white is >>>>winning(+1 evaluation or more).Here is what CM9000 says at 1.8 gig with over >>>>18 hours of Computation: >>>>Time Depth Score Positions Moves >>>>0:30 1/9 -0.04 4177820 64...d3 65.g7+ Kg8 66.Bd5+ Qxd5 >>>> 67.Nxd5 e2 68.Qxd3 e1=Q 69.Ne7+ >>>> Kf7 70.g8=Q+ Rxg8 71.Qxh7+ Kxf6 >>>> 72.Nxg8+ Ke6 73.Qe7+ Kf5 74.Qf7+ >>>> Ke4 >>>>0:50 1/9 -0.24 6946991 64...Rg8 65.g7+ Rxg7 66.Bd5 e2 >>>> 67.fxg7+ Kxg7 68.Qxe2 Qxe2 69.Nxe2 >>>> Kf6 70.Bg8 Kg6 71.Nf4+ Kh6 72.Ba2 >>>> a3 >>>>1:59 2/10 -0.38 16813719 64...Rg8 65.g7+ Rxg7 66.Bd5 e2 >>>> 67.fxg7+ Kxg7 68.Qxe2 Qxe2 69.Nxe2 >>>> Kf6 70.Nf4 a3 71.Nd3 h6 72.Ba2 >>>>4:49 3/11 -0.06 42378605 64...Rg8 65.g7+ Rxg7 66.fxg7+ Kxg7 >>>> 67.Qc2 Qd7 68.Qe4 Kg8 69.Qe5 Qd8+ >>>> 70.Kh3 Qc8+ 71.Bg4 Qc6 72.Be6+ >>>> Kf8 73.Qf6+ Ke8 74.Qh8+ Ke7 75.Qxh7+ >>>> Kd6 >>>>12:01 4/12 0.00 108592209 64...Rg8 65.g7+ Rxg7 66.fxg7+ Kxg7 >>>> 67.Qc2 Qd7 68.Qe4 Kh8 69.Qe5+ Qg7 >>>> 70.Qe8+ Qg8 71.Qe5+ Qg7 >>>>38:26 5/13 0.00 354471504 64...Rg8 65.g7+ Rxg7 66.fxg7+ Kxg7 >>>> 67.Qc2 Qd7 68.Qe4 Kh8 69.Qa8+ Kg7 >>>> 70.Qe4 >>>>2:25:08 6/14 0.20 1361525168 64...Rg8 65.g7+ Rxg7 66.fxg7+ Kxg7 >>>> 67.Qc2 Qd7 68.Qe4 Kh8 69.Qe5+ Qg7 >>>> 70.Qe8+ Qg8 71.Qxa4 d3 72.Qe4 Qd8+ >>>> 73.Kh3 e2 74.Nxd3 Qd7+ 75.Bg4 Qxd3 >>>> 76.Qxd3 e1=Q >>>>4:57:06 6/14 0.17 2807066913 64...d3 65.g7+ Kg8 66.Bd5+ Qxd5 >>>> 67.Nxd5 e2 68.Qxd3 e1=Q 69.Ne7+ >>>> Kf7 70.g8=Q+ Rxg8 71.Qxh7+ Kxf6 >>>> 72.Nxg8+ Ke6 73.Qe7+ Kf5 74.Qf7+ >>>> Ke4 75.Qf4+ Kd3 76.Qxa4 Qh1+ 77.Kg4 >>>> Qe4+ 78.Qxe4+ Kxe4 79.Ne7 Bf6 >>>>12:51:58 7/15 0.22 3130397897 64...d3 65.g7+ Kg8 66.Bd5+ Qxd5 >>>> 67.Nxd5 e2 68.Qxd3 e1=Q 69.Ne7+ >>>> Kf7 70.g8=Q+ Rxg8 71.Qxh7+ Kxf6 >>>> 72.Nxg8+ Ke6 73.Qe7+ Kf5 74.Qf7+ >>>> Ke4 75.Qf4+ Kd3 76.Qxa4 Qe4+ 77.Qxe4+ >>>> Kxe4 78.g4 Bg7 79.Kh5 Kf4 >>>> >>>> am >>> >>>Doesn't take Rebel 12.0 long... >>> >>>00:00:00.1 4.79 1 12 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kg8 >>>00:00:00.1 5.25 1 97 Rg8 >>>00:00:00.1 2.36 2 328 Rg8 g7+ Rxg7 fxg7+ Kxg7 >>>00:00:00.1 4.93 2 415 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 >>>00:00:00.2 3.07 3 1993 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 Qc2 >>>00:00:00.2 3.21 3 8182 Rd8 Qc2 Rd7 g7+ >>>00:00:00.2 2.59 4 15406 Rd8 Qc2 Rd7 Kh3 >>>00:00:00.2 2.87 4 16916 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 Qc2 d3 Qxc3 >>>00:00:00.2 2.87 5 27776 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 Qc2 d3 Qxc3 Kxg6 >>>00:00:00.3 2.42 6 89427 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 Qc2 Kh6 Nf4 Qg5+ Kh3 >>>00:00:00.6 2.25 7 361516 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 Ne7 Kh8 Qc2 Qc4 Qe4 >>>00:00:01.6 1.23 8 1268605 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 Ne7 d3 Be4+ Kh6 Nf5+ >>>00:00:28.9 -4.27 9 28711380 hxg6 Nxg6+ Kh7 Be4 Kg8 Qg4 Kf7 Nf8 >>>00:00:42.2 -2.88 9 41866081 Rd8 Qc2 Rg8 g7+ Rxg7 fxg7+ Kxg7 Qe4 >>>00:01:39.2 -1.20 9 97534625 Rg8 Qc2 Qd7 g7+ Rxg7 fxg7+ Qxg7 >>>00:01:59.0 -1.24 10 117409011 Rg8 Qc2 Qd7 g7+ Rxg7 fxg7+ Qxg7 >>>00:03:04.8 -1.72 11 181977928 Rg8 g7+ Rxg7 fxg7+ Kxg7 Ba8 Qd7 Qh5 >>The analysis does not show that white is winning (-1.72).Obviously a mere >>11 ply is not enough for this very complicated position.64...d3 is better than >>Rebels 64..Rg8.Shredder played 64...Rd8 and lost. > >Rebel's eval is for itself. The position you gave is for black. So Rebel thinks white is up 1.72.
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