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Subject: Re: When Will the Top Chess Programs be 64 bit?

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 15:36:51 08/14/03

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Martin,

I'd recommend you not to read articles on the web site that published the
information you quoted.

Once again: IA-64 can natively execute all user-level x86 instructions, though
on both Itanium1 and Itanium2 they are executed slow.

Thanks,
Eugene

On August 14, 2003 at 18:07:17, Martin Andersen wrote:

>On August 14, 2003 at 17:46:03, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>
>
>>>>32 bit programs can run on a 64 bit computer.
>>>
>>>Yes, but 32 bit programs will run slowly on a pure 64 bit
>>>computer like Intel Itanium, because the system needs to emulate
>>>32 bit in software.
>>
>>Exactly the other way. On Itanium2 software emulation of x86 is much faster than
>>direct hardware support :-)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Eugene
>>
>
>You are wrong.
>
>Quote from www.anandtech.com :
>
>
>In the past, Intel had been the ones to extend the x86 ISA (Instruction Set
>Architecture) beyond its 8-bit foundation. But once Intel hit 32-bit and started
>to look towards the future and 64-bit microprocessors, they wanted to rid
>themselves of the somewhat bulky x86 ISA and move towards something much more
>robust - and thus, IA-64 was born.
>
>The IA-64 ISA is significantly better than the x86 ISA in a number of ways, but
>the discussion of IA-64 is beyond the scope of this article as we're here to
>focus on x86. The biggest problem with the IA-64 ISA and thus IA-64
>microprocessors is the lack of native x86 compatibility, effectively keeping
>IA-64 processors from running over two decades worth of software. Intel
>recognized this and equipped their IA-64 processors (Itanium, Itanium 2, etc…)
>with an x86-to-IA-64 decoder, that takes x86 instructions and decodes them into
>IA-64 instructions. This decoder is not the most efficient decoder nor is it the
>best way to run x86 code (the best way would be to run it natively on an x86
>processor), and thus the Itanium and Itanium 2 offer quite poor performance
>under x86 applications.
>
>http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1815&p=5
>
>
>Martin.



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