Author: Peter Fendrich
Date: 16:11:17 08/14/03
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Dieter, Given that we have the same definition I'm very impressed of how you can produce such a strong program with such lousy numbers! I gave a very sloppy definition of 1FH. The real one is better described as: 100 x (number_of_1stFH)/(number_of_FH) where number_of_1stFH is the number of Fail Hihgs with the first move in the node and number_of_FH is total number of Fail High nodes. I'm sorry if this is the reason. /Peter On August 14, 2003 at 18:40:04, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >On August 14, 2003 at 15:27:06, Peter Fendrich wrote: > >>1FH = The ratio where the first generated move in the node is a Fail High. >> >>I experimented with removing the the hash table and became a bit surprised. >>Normally I have about 1FH = 95-96%. When I removed the hash table that figure >>raised to more like 1FH = 96-97% while the search depth, as expected, was >>decreased. >> >>Increased 1FH when removing the hash table. Is this normal? > >First of all - numbers over 95% seem very impressive to me for this. > >I tried from the initial position of chess - once without HTs, once with 100 Mb >- search depth set to 11 plies. Witout 100 Mb HTs I get (for other postions I >get typically over 90%, but not 95% and more): > > 15266354 24.574 0.15 11. 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.O-O O-O > 6.d3 {0} > >fail_high 555670 >1 move: 481364 ratio 86.628% sum 86.628% >2 move: 40132 ratio 7.222% sum 93.850% >3 move: 11370 ratio 2.046% sum 95.896% >4 move: 5211 ratio 0.938% sum 96.834% >5 move: 3128 ratio 0.563% sum 97.397% >6 move: 2109 ratio 0.380% sum 97.776% >7 move: 1570 ratio 0.283% sum 98.059% >8 move: 1156 ratio 0.208% sum 98.267% >9 move: 1032 ratio 0.186% sum 98.453% >10 move: 975 ratio 0.175% sum 98.628% >11 move: 770 ratio 0.139% sum 98.767% >12 move: 759 ratio 0.137% sum 98.903% >13 move: 670 ratio 0.121% sum 99.024% > >To interprete it - in the cases fail high occured, it was found in 86.6% of the >cases in the fírst move, 7.2% of the cases ín the 2nd move, and so on. > >With no HTs: > > 63795843 1:36.9 0.15 11. 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nc6 4.Nf3 Bc5 5.O-O O-O > 6.d3 {0} >fail_high 2022499 >1 move: 1725927 ratio 85.336% sum 85.336% >2 move: 165165 ratio 8.166% sum 93.503% >3 move: 47254 ratio 2.336% sum 95.839% >4 move: 20313 ratio 1.004% sum 96.844% >5 move: 11764 ratio 0.582% sum 97.425% >6 move: 7823 ratio 0.387% sum 97.812% >7 move: 5961 ratio 0.295% sum 98.107% >8 move: 4810 ratio 0.238% sum 98.345% >9 move: 3906 ratio 0.193% sum 98.538% >10 move: 3337 ratio 0.165% sum 98.703% >11 move: 2943 ratio 0.146% sum 98.848% >12 move: 2789 ratio 0.138% sum 98.986% >13 move: 2703 ratio 0.134% sum 99.120% > >So, pretty similar numbers. > >Regards, >Dieter
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