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Subject: Re: Heeeeeelllllloooooooo Johan de Koning!!!!!!!!!!

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 07:52:20 08/15/03

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On August 15, 2003 at 02:46:32, Johan de Koning wrote:

>On August 14, 2003 at 15:10:59, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On August 14, 2003 at 14:42:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 14, 2003 at 14:34:06, Andreas St. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 14, 2003 at 14:20:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 14, 2003 at 13:51:20, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 14, 2003 at 05:53:43, Andreas St. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is there any chance, that there will be out a patch for Chessmaster, that helps
>>>>>>>in time consuming???
>>>>>>>Chessmaster moves much too fast. Only with such patch chessmaster could play
>>>>>>>much stronger!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Heeeelllllloooo Johan :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Greetings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>AS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't speak for Johan, but I can GUESS that he would disagree with you when
>>>>>>you say that the engine "moves much too fast" and that it "could play much
>>>>>>stronger" if it took more time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Johan sticks by his clock management algorithm, and told me many times that he
>>>>>>feels that it is appropriate for The King.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jm
>>>>>
>>>>>He may decide that the time management of today is the default option but give
>>>>>the engine also options to play slower in the first moves by defining a
>>>>>different personality(using time 100 is the default and using time when you
>>>>>believe that you have twice the time that you really have can have parameter of
>>>>>200).
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not think that chessmaster is going to lose on time with parameter 200
>>>>>because I doubt if there are cases when it is using more than half of the
>>>>>remaining time for a single move.
>>>>>
>>>>>In any case it is possible to decide about limit in the personality(never use
>>>>>more than x% of the remaining time for a move).
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi Uri
>>>>
>>>>of what time parameter are you talking about?
>>>>Where can i find it. Is it possible to set any time parameter by using the king
>>>>with UCI?
>>>>
>>>>Greetings
>>>>
>>>>AS
>>>
>>>I am not talking about existing parameter.
>>>
>>>When I said to define a different personality I meant also to add a new
>>>parameter for all the personalities of chessmaster that means to play slower or
>>>to play faster.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>We did discuss adding such a "time management" personality parameter for CM9000.
>>We eventually decided against it for several reasons. At this point, if Johan
>>wants to clarify, he can do so.
>
>We actually decided pretty immediately against it. :-)
>
>Looking back we may have discarded it too quickly, because I do agree with
>others that the engine does play relatively fast early in the game.
>
>However, I do not agree with others that an agressive time schedule would make
>the engine play *much* stronger. Saved time will be fed back and will be very
>valuable when panic strikes or when the game goes beyond 40 moves. Used time on
>the other hand can never be restored.
>
>... Johan


Addup that playing faster then your computer opponent gives you an advantage in
the permanent brain as it will narrow the time of your computer opponent. I am
sure this is a consideration of yours to keep your fast time control as is.

Ed



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