Author: Johan de Koning
Date: 01:25:59 08/16/03
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On August 15, 2003 at 10:52:20, Ed Schröder wrote: >On August 15, 2003 at 02:46:32, Johan de Koning wrote: > >>On August 14, 2003 at 15:10:59, John Merlino wrote: >> >>>On August 14, 2003 at 14:42:46, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On August 14, 2003 at 14:34:06, Andreas St. wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 14, 2003 at 14:20:20, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 14, 2003 at 13:51:20, John Merlino wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On August 14, 2003 at 05:53:43, Andreas St. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>is there any chance, that there will be out a patch for Chessmaster, that helps >>>>>>>>in time consuming??? >>>>>>>>Chessmaster moves much too fast. Only with such patch chessmaster could play >>>>>>>>much stronger!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Heeeelllllloooo Johan :-( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Greetings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>AS >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I can't speak for Johan, but I can GUESS that he would disagree with you when >>>>>>>you say that the engine "moves much too fast" and that it "could play much >>>>>>>stronger" if it took more time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Johan sticks by his clock management algorithm, and told me many times that he >>>>>>>feels that it is appropriate for The King. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>jm >>>>>> >>>>>>He may decide that the time management of today is the default option but give >>>>>>the engine also options to play slower in the first moves by defining a >>>>>>different personality(using time 100 is the default and using time when you >>>>>>believe that you have twice the time that you really have can have parameter of >>>>>>200). >>>>>> >>>>>>I do not think that chessmaster is going to lose on time with parameter 200 >>>>>>because I doubt if there are cases when it is using more than half of the >>>>>>remaining time for a single move. >>>>>> >>>>>>In any case it is possible to decide about limit in the personality(never use >>>>>>more than x% of the remaining time for a move). >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Hi Uri >>>>> >>>>>of what time parameter are you talking about? >>>>>Where can i find it. Is it possible to set any time parameter by using the king >>>>>with UCI? >>>>> >>>>>Greetings >>>>> >>>>>AS >>>> >>>>I am not talking about existing parameter. >>>> >>>>When I said to define a different personality I meant also to add a new >>>>parameter for all the personalities of chessmaster that means to play slower or >>>>to play faster. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>We did discuss adding such a "time management" personality parameter for CM9000. >>>We eventually decided against it for several reasons. At this point, if Johan >>>wants to clarify, he can do so. >> >>We actually decided pretty immediately against it. :-) >> >>Looking back we may have discarded it too quickly, because I do agree with >>others that the engine does play relatively fast early in the game. >> >>However, I do not agree with others that an agressive time schedule would make >>the engine play *much* stronger. Saved time will be fed back and will be very >>valuable when panic strikes or when the game goes beyond 40 moves. Used time on >>the other hand can never be restored. >> >>... Johan > > >Addup that playing faster then your computer opponent gives you an advantage in >the permanent brain as it will narrow the time of your computer opponent. I am >sure this is a consideration of yours to keep your fast time control as is. Well, now that you mention it ... I'll keep this in mind when (if) reredesigning the time manager. I am sure this is an attempt of yours to pull my leg. Well done. :-) ... Johan
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