Author: Keith Evans
Date: 12:56:53 08/17/03
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On August 17, 2003 at 14:58:52, Rex wrote: >On August 17, 2003 at 10:03:26, Bob Durrett wrote: > >>On August 17, 2003 at 09:52:18, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On August 17, 2003 at 09:32:19, Rex wrote: >>> >>>>With Brutus becoming more and more exciting to watch with its strength and >>>>development will software chess like we know it today become the thing of the >>>>past? >>>> >>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=221 >>> >>>No >>> >>>I see no evidence that brutus is better than the top software. >>> >>>Other programs already did similiar performance against humans. >>> >>>Hardware for chess also does not worth much because the hardware is static when >>>a software becomes better when you buy a new hardware. >>> >> >>Sorry, Uri, but that sounds too much like wishful thinking to me. : ) >>The handwriting is on the wall!!! It is not the current performance that >>matters, but is the potential or promise of this new approach which should get >>our attention and debate, IMHO. >> >>Bob D. >>>Uri > >Yes this was something I have also agree on. Its not about how strong or good >Brutus is now. But the promise of this new approach far excels chess software. >The opening book, ALL EGTB, HUGE amounts of chess theory, the largest chess >database for play reference---All of this NOT on software but inside a chips >hardware is something very striking to me. I doubt that anybody would consider adding the opening book, all egtbs, and large chess databases in hardware. What would an opening book in hardware buy you? Nothing. And what would it cost? A lot. You'll maybe see some really small EGTBs, but not any large ones. Once you get to a point where software could make a lot of tablebase hits, then you would potentially turn off all of the special chess hardware and just use a software engine. I personally chess hardware as being a middlegame thing. You may want to go see how much PCI boards based on Xilinx Virtex2 parts cost today. You can buy a nice SMP PC for the price of what I consider to be a low-end FPGA board. And you can buy a car for one of the higher end boards. > >You can see it occuring now in the computer hardware market. Hard drives will >soon be the thing of the past with the info stored on the motherboards memory >chips. Ram will soon be all integrated on the CPU. Software will just be >integrated on the motherboards chipsets..ie firmware. It will and is going to >happen. I don't believe your statement "Ram will soon be all integrated on the CPU." I don't see this happening anytime soon. Are you talking about putting it on the same die, or just going to a different sort of packaging where it's included in a module along with the CPU. Also with people commonly getting 100+ GB drives, I don't know how that's going to be replaced by DRAM any time soon. -K
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