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Subject: Re: 4,200,000 max kN with Shredder 7.04

Author: Jouni Uski

Date: 01:51:31 08/18/03

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On August 18, 2003 at 04:20:01, Tony Werten wrote:

>On August 17, 2003 at 19:05:57, Michael P. Nance Sr. wrote:
>
>>On August 17, 2003 at 17:44:53, Tony Werten wrote:
>>
>>>On August 17, 2003 at 17:34:14, William Penn wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've noticed that when running Shredder 7.04 UCI engine in CB Shredder 7 GUI in
>>>>infinite analysis mode, there's a problem with the kN and kN/s counters after
>>>>the total KN exceeds about 4,200,000. That's not an exact number, but
>>>>approximated.
>>>
>>>I can make the pretty precise gues that problems start after 4,294,967,295
>>>nodes.
>>>
>>>
>>>>In any case, kN reverts to zero at that point and begins counting
>>>>up again. The value of kN/s also drops to zero then start increasing again (very
>>>>slowly). I believe the 7.04 engine continues to work OK, just that counter is
>>>>buggy.
>>>
>>>It's not buggy, it's 32 bit.
>>>
>>>Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>>WP
>>So with 64 bit technology it would go further?
>
>With a 64 bit counter it already would, (They are available in 32 bit
>environment) but they are not the first logical choice (32 bit is).
>
>With todays fast computers, in some special cases (when you let it run for a
>couple of days) 32 bit is not enough.
>
>OTOH hardly anybody lets it run that long and 64 bit numbers are a bit slower
>then 32 bit.
>
>Tony

Days? With most engines 32 counter resets after 1 hour on Pentium 2 GHz!

Jouni



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