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Subject: Re: 4,200,000 max kN with Shredder 7.04

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 02:26:35 08/18/03

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On August 18, 2003 at 04:51:31, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On August 18, 2003 at 04:20:01, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>On August 17, 2003 at 19:05:57, Michael P. Nance Sr. wrote:
>>
>>>On August 17, 2003 at 17:44:53, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 17, 2003 at 17:34:14, William Penn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I've noticed that when running Shredder 7.04 UCI engine in CB Shredder 7 GUI in
>>>>>infinite analysis mode, there's a problem with the kN and kN/s counters after
>>>>>the total KN exceeds about 4,200,000. That's not an exact number, but
>>>>>approximated.
>>>>
>>>>I can make the pretty precise gues that problems start after 4,294,967,295
>>>>nodes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In any case, kN reverts to zero at that point and begins counting
>>>>>up again. The value of kN/s also drops to zero then start increasing again (very
>>>>>slowly). I believe the 7.04 engine continues to work OK, just that counter is
>>>>>buggy.
>>>>
>>>>It's not buggy, it's 32 bit.
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>WP
>>>So with 64 bit technology it would go further?
>>
>>With a 64 bit counter it already would, (They are available in 32 bit
>>environment) but they are not the first logical choice (32 bit is).
>>
>>With todays fast computers, in some special cases (when you let it run for a
>>couple of days) 32 bit is not enough.
>>
>>OTOH hardly anybody lets it run that long and 64 bit numbers are a bit slower
>>then 32 bit.
>>
>>Tony
>
>Days? With most engines 32 counter resets after 1 hour on Pentium 2 GHz!

What does that have to do with my reply ?

Most engines don't have a KN counter and most engines aren't called Shredder.

Tony

>
>Jouni



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