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Subject: Re: How fast million years goes... not for all such positions..

Author: Werner Schuele

Date: 10:41:46 08/21/03

Hi, there are other positions, where you can see this is a computer program:

[D] 8/4kb1r/2p3p1/rpPp1pPp/p2PpP1P/P3P3/2K5/4B3 w - - 0 1

(found in the book chesscomputer from Kishon,Pfleger,Weiner)
Werner
Neue Partie
8/4kb1r/2p3p1/rpPp1pPp/p2PpP1P/P3P3/2K5/4B3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 1/1   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00
1.Le1xa5 Th7-h8 2.Kc2-c3 Ke7-e6 3.La5-c7 Th8-e8 4.Lc7-e5
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 8/8   00:00:00  2kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-g7
  -+  (-7.31)   Tiefe: 8/9   00:00:00  9kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.La5-b4 Kd7-e6 3.Kc2-d2 Th7-h8 4.Lb4-a5
  -+  (-7.54)   Tiefe: 9/10   00:00:00  15kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.La5-d2 Th7-h8 3.Kc2-d1 Kd7-e6 4.Kd1-e2
  -+  (-7.44)   Tiefe: 10/11   00:00:00  27kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-e8 4.Lb6-a5 Te8-a8 5.La5-b6 Lf7-e6
6.Kc3-d2
  -+  (-7.51)   Tiefe: 11/12   00:00:00  39kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Tc8-e8 5.Kb4-c3 Lf7-e6
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 12/13   00:00:00  49kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Lf7-e6 5.Kb4-c3 Tc8-b8
6.Lb6-a5 Kd7-e7 7.La5-c7
  -+  (-7.50)   Tiefe: 13/15   00:00:00  62kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Tc8-e8 5.Lb6-a5 Te8-a8
6.La5-b6 Kd7-e6 7.Lb6-c7 Ta8-a6
  -+  (-7.47)   Tiefe: 14/19   00:00:00  120kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Tc8-a8
6.La5-c7 Lf7-e8
  -+  (-7.52)   Tiefe: 15/19   00:00:00  184kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.Kc3-b2
  -+  (-7.52)   Tiefe: 16/20   00:00:00  247kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b6
  -+  (-7.57)   Tiefe: 17/18   00:00:01  332kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b6 Kd7-e6
  -+  (-7.52)   Tiefe: 18/19   00:00:01  449kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.Kc3-b2
  -+  (-7.55)   Tiefe: 19/21   00:00:01  577kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.Kc3-b2
  -+  (-7.55)   Tiefe: 20/21   00:00:02  831kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.Kc3-b2
  -+  (-7.58)   Tiefe: 21/24   00:00:02  1092kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.Kc3-b2
  -+  (-7.60)   Tiefe: 22/23   00:00:03  1495kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b4
  -+  (-7.59)   Tiefe: 23/29   00:00:04  2089kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b4
  -+  (-7.58)   Tiefe: 24/35   00:00:06  3153kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b4
  -+  (-7.57)   Tiefe: 25/35   00:00:10  4836kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b4
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 26/39   00:00:13  6643kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b4
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 27/37   00:00:22  11294kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.Kb4-c3 Ke7-d7 7.La5-b4
  -+  (-7.60)   Tiefe: 28/39   00:00:27  14145kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.La5-b6 Lf7-g8 7.Kb4-c3 Ke7-e6
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 29/41   00:00:37  19052kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.La5-b6 Lf7-g8 7.Kb4-c3 Ke7-e6
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 30/43   00:00:50  25768kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.La5-b6 Lf7-g8 7.Kb4-c3 Ke7-e6
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 31/45   00:01:05  33819kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.La5-b6 Lf7-g8 7.Kb4-c3 Ke7-e6
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 32/47   00:01:25  43342kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.La5-b6 Lf7-g8 7.Kb4-c3 Ke7-e6
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 33/49   00:01:57  58322kN
1.Le1xa5 Ke7-d7 2.Kc2-c3 Th7-h8 3.La5-b6 Th8-c8 4.Kc3-b4 Kd7-e6 5.Lb6-a5 Ke6-e7
6.La5-b6 Lf7-g8 7.Kb4-c3 Ke7-e6
  -+  (-7.56)   Tiefe: 34/55   00:02:53  84529kN

(Schüle, Leutenbach 21.08.2003)




On August 21, 2003 at 06:12:12, Jouni Uski wrote:

>[D]8/1p6/1Pp2N1q/p1Ppk2p/P3p3/3PPpPp/3K1P1P/1R6 w - -
>
>From CSS forum: Machine should, within a million hours, be able to find the draw
>in this position (with Ng4+). But Shredder 7.04 found it in one second!!
>
>Jouni

Re: How fast million years goes... not for all such positions.. Mike Byrne 21:21:26 08/22/03
Re: How fast million years goes... not for all such positions.. Jeremiah Penery 15:39:55 08/21/03
- which Version from Crafty? Werner Schuele 08:49:14 08/22/03
  - Re: which Version from Crafty? Jeremiah Penery 16:37:42 08/22/03
- Re: How fast million years goes... not for all such positions.. Great! Werner Schuele 00:12:06 08/22/03

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