Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 08:57:28 08/24/03
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On August 24, 2003 at 11:28:29, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:
>On August 24, 2003 at 10:38:31, Anson T J wrote:
>
>>All PGN games are available for download and view on the following website:
>>http://mysite.freeserve.com/intagrand/junior8test/index.html
>>
>>
>>Test Configuration
>>Hardware: Dual AMD MP 2400+ 512 MB Ram
>>Software: Junior 8 GUI & 3-5 piece EGTB
>>
>>Engine Details
>>Processor: 1 CPU each (AMD MP2400+)
>>Hash: 128 MB hash each
>>Ponder Move: On
>>Books: Native Books / CM9k (F6's general.ctg)
>>Time Control: 40/2Hrs + 20/1Hr + Rest/30 mins
>>Rounds: 50 games vs each opponent
>>
>>
>>Opponent: Junior 8's Score:
>>Shredder 7.04 +18/-12/=20 (56%) +41 elo
>>Fritz 8 +17/-11/=22 (56%) +41 elo
>>Hiarcs 8 +28/-8/=14 (70%) +147 elo
>>CM 9000 (SKR) +17/-10/=23 (57%) +48 elo
>>CM 9000 +23/-8/=19 (65%) +107 elo
>>
>>This concludes my Junior 8 Summer Test. I hope people will find the games and
>>results useful. Sorry that I will not be able to run any more test games for a
>>while as I can no longer spare the CPU time. A fine performance by Junior 8
>>here. Also congrats to the "SKR creators" as the SKR personality of Chess Master
>>9000 performed 59 elo points stronger than the default settings.
>There is a big problem with this match: You did not use the Chessmaster opening
>book for CM .This is like separating the head from body.Opening books are indeed >part of the program.
There was nothing wrong with using the general.ctg instead of the
CM9000.obk since the latter book is in any case somewhat weaker.
And if Anson had played with the CM9-GUI we [all chess people] would
not have the pleasure to follow the games live.
Kurt
>Also I should note that (and I have said this many
>times) that comp vs comp matches prove nothing about how a program will do
>against humans:That is Program A may be stronger than program B by 100 Elo in
>Comp vs Comp ;but Program B may be stronger by 100 Elo than program A when
>playing only humans.
Both Fritz and Junior were disasters in the matches against Kasparov and
Kramnik.
How can you argue that way. You seem to forget one thing: both programs
have drawn their matches vs the strongest chess players of the world.
Kurt
In any case I do not see the points in these
>Comp Matches(We need more human vs Comp) as SSDF is doing a great job pitting
>programs against each other.
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