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Subject: Re: Junior is considered the strongest against humans ......................

Author: Mark Young

Date: 14:58:10 08/24/03

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On August 24, 2003 at 16:31:55, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On August 24, 2003 at 16:15:44, Mike Byrne wrote:
>
>>On August 24, 2003 at 13:12:14, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1141
>>
>>"Nevertheless, 11 games is a pretty good sample"
>>
>>I have never seen 11 games be a good sample. When you start playing games
>>against the same opponent, you will have a an excpetional strong 11 game string
>>and an exceptional weak game string.  It takes hundred of games to raise the
>>confidence level and narrow the range to get any comfort at all.
>
>I could never expect from a statistician to say such a thing!
>(Of cource with "pretty good" he could mean "bad", but i don't think that).
>
>And moreover he calculates a rating for the chess engine called: Shredder!
>That means he combines the performance of different Shredder chess engines:
>Shredder 6/6.02/.../7 for having an ELO of Shredder. Although one can say
>this can be done, if we think Shredder as a person with learning ability,
>like a human which improving along the years, but i disagree and i find
>this dubious, as Shredder 7.04 is totally different to Shredder-6.

Yes I find this dubious also...My guess would be Shredder 7.04 is the strongest
against humans and computers.

Also hardware was not factored in with the results. I think Junior has more
games on faster hardware then Shredder 6 thur 7.04.

I am not even sure Shredder 7.04 has any games against humans. In the two
tournaments I think Shredder 7 was playing not Shredder 7.04...anyone know for
sure?



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