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Subject: Re: Junior 8 Test Complete: J8 vs CM9k +23/-8/=19 (65%) +107 elo

Author: Günther Simon

Date: 01:44:40 08/25/03

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On August 24, 2003 at 22:19:34, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:

>>>>ridiculous
>>>>
>>>>Michael
>>>>
>>>>>Computer).Also look at DJs Rae8?? in Game 1.Look at Bf8?? by Fritz against
>>>>>Kramnik in game 2 and a3?? by Fritz against Kramnik in game 3.There is no
>>>>>doubt in My mind that Fritz and Junior are not as strong against human players
>>>>>as some of the lessor known Programs .However Chessbase politics has had these
>>>>>2 programs playing humans.The stongest programs in the World against humans
>>>>>are HIARCS CHESSMASTER and MCHESS.
>>>>>                 am
>>>What is ridiculous guy? huh?
>>
>>Your opinion is ridiculous...
>>
>>Chess is a logical game and if you are down in
>>>Material you should expect to lose.13 plys is very deep for a chess game .After
>>>16.g3 it is a lose for Black;the HIARCS shoot out proves this.
>>
>>The most important factor in Chess is Kingsafety and not Material.
>>13 ply is not very deep at all in chess.
>>HIARCS 8 has no clue at all here. It does not understand, even after a very long
>>search, that 16...Nh2+ is the critical variation and not 16...Qh2+.
>>Your shootout is therefore meaningless and proves nothing.
>>
>>Michael
>You got so much to learn Almost all engines choose 16..Nh2+ before settleing
>for 16....Qh2+.It seems that you do not do much chess analysis with programs
>in addition to being a very weak player.

Do we really have to warm up the story when Mr. A.Mirafzali won
a contest of U1600 players with the obvious help of computer programs?
(although he never reached this strength before and after this tourney
in his whole life? - the story can be still found in the archives
and in the net)

G. Simon



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