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Subject: Re: ESPN Embraces Chess and Kasparov-X3D Fritz

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 11:23:02 08/25/03

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On August 25, 2003 at 10:18:47, Louis Fagliano wrote:

>On August 25, 2003 at 08:31:16, Sally Weltrop wrote:
>
>>On August 25, 2003 at 02:10:35, Sietel Monic wrote:
>>
>>>I hate waiting for these events. I want to see them so much and chessbase talks
>>>about them sooo much, I just want to see the match tommorro!!lol
>>
>>
>>I take it with a grain of salt. If it happens L watch it if I can. When it does
>>it's not really the truth of the matter anyway. We know it's just publicity
>>advancement for CB and the lining of money in the GM's pockets. They don't have
>>the gonaids to push the game. They'll take a draw at the drop of a hat.
>>
>>I say give the GM's NOTHING to play them. This will give their lazy rearends an
>>incentive to win as winning is the only way they can get money which is what is
>>motivating them from what we see when basically their taking all the money right
>>before they've even pushed a pawn!
>>
>>Play 10 games
>>
>>money disbursement is as follows:
>>
>>a win ------------------- $100,000
>>a draw ------------------  $25,000
>>a loss ------------------  $50,000
>>
>>
>>This works out nicely as to accept lazy, sluggish draws inspires poverty whereas
>>if you deliberately lose to make more you get you ego trampled plus not making
>>as much as the win. The only way to play is "for the human race" as all these
>>hyprocries have been spouting is to go for the gold which is what they should be
>>doing regardless but we know that has not been the case from all these "Man vs.
>>Machine" matches.
>
>Actually, there is a better way to prevent lazy, sluggish draws.  Just have the
>computer operator refuse all draws offers until the position is completely dead,
>(i.e., it's a tablebase draw).
>

I agree that the operators should not so readily accept draw offers, but there
are also some dead drawn positions which are far from the tablebases. As an
operator I would not like to play that out, either against another computer or
against a grandmaster. Also, we must admit that the operator has to face
difficult decisions, and it is easy an unfair to criticize them.

>Or have Fritz itself be the one who accepts or declines an offer of a draw and
>set the draw contempt factor high so that it will play out most any position to
>an absolute 0.00 eval.

Good idea! But against really strong grandmasters that will lose more often than
win.
José.



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