Author: Sally Weltrop
Date: 13:14:49 08/25/03
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On August 24, 2003 at 16:57:04, Russell Reagan wrote: >On August 24, 2003 at 13:12:14, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1141 > >This doesn't seem very interesting to me, as it seems like a bunch of >meaningless statistics. I was hoping that he would take all kinds of factors, >such as the losses of computer programs to FIDE ranked human players. It is very >probable that perfect chess ends in a draw. The only difference between a draw >and a win to a computer is how well the opponent played (this is different with >humans, where they might be tired for examlpe and are content with a draw). The >computer just spits out what it thinks is the best move. His list, based largely >(or totally?) on statistics doesn't account for things like this. > >I think a much better list would be one that takes things like losses into heavy >consideration, because to me a program that has never lost to a human is more >impressive to me than one who might have a better winning percentage. > >I also agree that the sample pool is very small, to the point where statistics >are meaningless. > >I also don't think it's fair to basically other programs that haven't had the >chance to play Kasparov. Every program on his list might well draw with >Kasparov, given the chance. His list seems more like the "which programs have >played the strongest opponents without making fools of themselves" list. a good point Jorge. I think if they had a Super GM vs Machine tourney it would be a HUGE event. say for the GM's Kasparov, Garry Kramnik, Vladimir Anand, Viswanathan Leko, Peter Topalov, Veselin Grischuk, Alexander Shirov, Alexei Svidler, Peter Bareev, Evgeny Adams, Michael Polgar, Judit Ponomariov, Ruslan Karpov, Anatoly Machines: definitely some dual setup Deep Sjeng Shredder 7.04 Deep Junior Deep Fritz Chess Tiger 15 Rebel (latest ver) HIARCS 9 Crafty Gandalf 5.1 Ruffian 1.01 Yace Chessmaster 9000 (setup correctly) Diep have each GM play each program 2X's with money going towards wins & losses, draws get nothing wins get $100,000, losses get $50,000. This would b 1 heck of an event and all eyes would be glued to it.
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