Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 14:51:05 08/27/03
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On August 27, 2003 at 17:37:55, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On August 27, 2003 at 17:09:36, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>On August 27, 2003 at 16:05:58, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>> >>>The end of the tournament is indeed very exiting. The first time in the >>>tournament The King 3.23 skr with general.ctg takes the lead together >>>with Shredder 7.04 but Junior 8 is only a half point behind and with >>>only four rounds to go all can happen. Who will be the lucky winner >>>after total 280 games, 70 games per engine? One thing is however >>>clear: the book general.ctg is much better for The King 3.23 skr >>>than the remis.ctg. >> >>I bet on Shredder in both tables! Even now i can't believe the bad >>performance of Hiarcs 8 and especially Chess Tiger 15.0. Why this happened? >>It's a mystery. Maybe 70 more games and things would change. >>But one thing is clear: engine strength is a complicated equation that depends >>on: opening books,hardware speed,permanent brain,hash size,luck?,time >>controls,the opponents,endgame tablebases,book learning and even if you >>keep these parameters (except luck) the same, for finding the best we need >>many many games (to eliminate luck). > > >There is no significant difference between the top programs, it all depends on >the confidence interval of the estimator (the true value lies with 95/99% >probability in this region). This is what the Swedes do in the SSDF lists >according to Chrilly Donninger: PS: Chrilly Donninger should send his FPGA card to the SSDF to compare it against Shredder 7.04 UCI and Fritz 8 on a mere Athlon 1.2 GHZ :-) > >http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1146 > > >>> Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + - >>> >>> 1 TK 3.23 skr general.ctg : 40.5/ 66 61.4 2490 2571 75 59 >>> 2 Shredder 7.04 : 40.5/ 66 61.4 2489 2570 75 59 >>> 3 Junior 8.0.0.2 : 40.0/ 66 60.6 2490 2565 75 63 >>> 4 Fritz 8.0.0.8 : 37.0/ 66 56.1 2495 2537 80 63 >>> 5 Deep Sjeng 1.5 : 29.5/ 66 44.7 2506 2469 64 81 >>> 6 Chess Tiger 15.0 : 27.5/ 66 41.7 2508 2450 52 78 >>> 7 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 27.0/ 66 40.9 2508 2444 57 77 >>> 8 Hiarcs 8 : 22.0/ 66 33.3 2516 2395 60 70 >>> >>> >>> >>> Program Score % Av.Op. Elo + - >>> >>> 1 Shredder 7.04 : 41.0/ 66 62.1 2489 2575 74 61 >>> 2 Junior 8.0.0.2 : 40.5/ 66 61.4 2488 2569 75 62 >>> 3 Fritz 8.0.0.8 : 39.5/ 66 59.8 2492 2561 76 70 >>> 4 Deep Sjeng 1.5 : 32.0/ 66 48.5 2501 2491 62 86 >>> 5 TK 3.23 skr remis.ctg : 31.5/ 66 47.7 2502 2486 60 85 >>> 6 Ruffian 1.0.5 : 29.5/ 66 44.7 2505 2468 54 81 >>> 7 Chess Tiger 15.0 : 27.5/ 66 41.7 2508 2449 52 78 >>> 8 Hiarcs 8 : 22.5/ 66 34.1 2515 2401 62 71 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Further details at: >>>Détails additionnels chez: >>>Weitere Details unter: >>> >>>http://www.utzingerkurt.com
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