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Subject: Re: Chrilly Donninger should send his FPGA card to the SSDF :-)

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 14:51:05 08/27/03

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On August 27, 2003 at 17:37:55, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On August 27, 2003 at 17:09:36, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>
>>On August 27, 2003 at 16:05:58, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The end of the tournament is indeed very exiting. The first time in the
>>>tournament The King 3.23 skr with general.ctg takes the lead together
>>>with Shredder 7.04 but Junior 8 is only a half point behind and with
>>>only four rounds to go all can happen. Who will be the lucky winner
>>>after total 280 games, 70 games per engine? One thing is however
>>>clear: the book general.ctg is much better for The King 3.23 skr
>>>than the remis.ctg.
>>
>>I bet on Shredder in both tables! Even now i can't believe the bad
>>performance of Hiarcs 8 and especially Chess Tiger 15.0. Why this happened?
>>It's a mystery. Maybe 70 more games and things would change.
>>But one thing is clear: engine strength is a complicated equation that depends
>>on: opening books,hardware speed,permanent brain,hash size,luck?,time
>>controls,the opponents,endgame tablebases,book learning and even if you
>>keep these parameters (except luck) the same, for finding the best we need
>>many many games (to eliminate luck).
>
>
>There is no significant difference between the top programs, it all depends on
>the confidence interval of the estimator (the true value lies with 95/99%
>probability in this region). This is what the Swedes do in the SSDF lists
>according to Chrilly Donninger:

PS: Chrilly Donninger should send his FPGA card to the SSDF to compare it
against Shredder 7.04 UCI and Fritz 8 on a mere Athlon 1.2 GHZ :-)
>
>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1146
>
>
>>>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>>>
>>>  1 TK 3.23 skr general.ctg        :  40.5/ 66  61.4   2490   2571   75  59
>>>  2 Shredder 7.04                  :  40.5/ 66  61.4   2489   2570   75  59
>>>  3 Junior 8.0.0.2                 :  40.0/ 66  60.6   2490   2565   75  63
>>>  4 Fritz 8.0.0.8                  :  37.0/ 66  56.1   2495   2537   80  63
>>>  5 Deep Sjeng 1.5                 :  29.5/ 66  44.7   2506   2469   64  81
>>>  6 Chess Tiger 15.0               :  27.5/ 66  41.7   2508   2450   52  78
>>>  7 Ruffian 1.0.5                  :  27.0/ 66  40.9   2508   2444   57  77
>>>  8 Hiarcs 8                       :  22.0/ 66  33.3   2516   2395   60  70
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>>>
>>>  1 Shredder 7.04                  :  41.0/ 66  62.1   2489   2575   74  61
>>>  2 Junior 8.0.0.2                 :  40.5/ 66  61.4   2488   2569   75  62
>>>  3 Fritz 8.0.0.8                  :  39.5/ 66  59.8   2492   2561   76  70
>>>  4 Deep Sjeng 1.5                 :  32.0/ 66  48.5   2501   2491   62  86
>>>  5 TK 3.23 skr remis.ctg          :  31.5/ 66  47.7   2502   2486   60  85
>>>  6 Ruffian 1.0.5                  :  29.5/ 66  44.7   2505   2468   54  81
>>>  7 Chess Tiger 15.0               :  27.5/ 66  41.7   2508   2449   52  78
>>>  8 Hiarcs 8                       :  22.5/ 66  34.1   2515   2401   62  71
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Further details at:
>>>Détails additionnels chez:
>>>Weitere Details unter:
>>>
>>>http://www.utzingerkurt.com



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