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Subject: Re: Why not exchange rooks here?

Author: Tom Likens

Date: 19:07:06 08/27/03

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On August 27, 2003 at 11:57:12, James T. Walker wrote:

>Here is a position which came up last night while testing a beta engine.
>[D]8/4k3/8/4K2p/7P/5rPb/8/6R1 b - -
>It's hard to find a program that will play Rf1 forcing the rook exchange and
>progressing to a tablebase won ending.  Shouldn't there be some knowledge that
>would tell engines to do this without searching 30 plies?  I mean the bishop
>covers the queening square of the black pawn which should be a clue to the win.
>Jim

No claims on how good my engine Djinn is (or isn't ;) but it never really
considers anything but 1... Rf1

 2  -3.59  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1 <HT>
 3  -3.59  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1
 4  -3.47  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1 3. Kf4
 5  -3.58  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1 3. Kd5 Kf7
 6   -.--  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1 3. Kd5 Kf7
 6  -3.33  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1 3. Kd5 Kf7
 7   +.++  1. ... Rf1!!
 7  -3.54  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1 3. Kf4 Be2 4. Ke3 Bd1
 8  -3.50  1. ... Rf1 2. Rxf1 Bxf1 3. Kf4 Bh3 4. Ke5 Bg4 5. Kd5

  2. ... Rf1

Of course, the question is "does it understand it?"

regards,
--tom



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