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Subject: Re: RK 2003 [120'/60] Standing: only 4 rounds to go

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 22:12:11 08/27/03

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On August 27, 2003 at 17:09:36, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On August 27, 2003 at 16:05:58, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>
>>The end of the tournament is indeed very exiting. The first time in the
>>tournament The King 3.23 skr with general.ctg takes the lead together
>>with Shredder 7.04 but Junior 8 is only a half point behind and with
>>only four rounds to go all can happen. Who will be the lucky winner
>>after total 280 games, 70 games per engine? One thing is however
>>clear: the book general.ctg is much better for The King 3.23 skr
>>than the remis.ctg.
>
>I bet on Shredder in both tables! Even now i can't believe the bad
>performance of Hiarcs 8 and especially Chess Tiger 15.0. Why this happened?
>It's a mystery. Maybe 70 more games and things would change.
>But one thing is clear: engine strength is a complicated equation that depends
>on: opening books,hardware speed,permanent brain,hash size,luck?,time
>controls,the opponents,endgame tablebases,book learning and even if you
>keep these parameters (except luck) the same, for finding the best we need
>many many games (to eliminate luck). So even if Kasparov won 5-1 DJ8, this
>would not mean he is better, as your 100-game example with Gandalf shows.
>
>What will happen if 2 or 3 engines have equal score in the top? Are you
>intent to play tiebreak? It would be interesting.

    We have not yet thought about this. A tiebriek about how many
    games?
    Kurt
>
>>
>>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>>
>>  1 TK 3.23 skr general.ctg        :  40.5/ 66  61.4   2490   2571   75  59
>>  2 Shredder 7.04                  :  40.5/ 66  61.4   2489   2570   75  59
>>  3 Junior 8.0.0.2                 :  40.0/ 66  60.6   2490   2565   75  63
>>  4 Fritz 8.0.0.8                  :  37.0/ 66  56.1   2495   2537   80  63
>>  5 Deep Sjeng 1.5                 :  29.5/ 66  44.7   2506   2469   64  81
>>  6 Chess Tiger 15.0               :  27.5/ 66  41.7   2508   2450   52  78
>>  7 Ruffian 1.0.5                  :  27.0/ 66  40.9   2508   2444   57  77
>>  8 Hiarcs 8                       :  22.0/ 66  33.3   2516   2395   60  70
>>
>>
>>
>>    Program                            Score     %    Av.Op.  Elo    +   -
>>
>>  1 Shredder 7.04                  :  41.0/ 66  62.1   2489   2575   74  61
>>  2 Junior 8.0.0.2                 :  40.5/ 66  61.4   2488   2569   75  62
>>  3 Fritz 8.0.0.8                  :  39.5/ 66  59.8   2492   2561   76  70
>>  4 Deep Sjeng 1.5                 :  32.0/ 66  48.5   2501   2491   62  86
>>  5 TK 3.23 skr remis.ctg          :  31.5/ 66  47.7   2502   2486   60  85
>>  6 Ruffian 1.0.5                  :  29.5/ 66  44.7   2505   2468   54  81
>>  7 Chess Tiger 15.0               :  27.5/ 66  41.7   2508   2449   52  78
>>  8 Hiarcs 8                       :  22.5/ 66  34.1   2515   2401   62  71
>>
>>
>>
>>
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