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Subject: Re: Eval Killer (correction)

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 05:22:49 08/28/03

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On August 28, 2003 at 08:04:03, Mike Hood wrote:

>On August 27, 2003 at 23:34:38, Rex wrote:
>
>>Have fun with this one...  Let your engine run for a few minutes.  Interesting
>>to see the different evals on this one..
>>
>>[D]3r2k1/1pp2ppp/3r4/1P1npq2/3n4/3PPP2/1BQ1BP1P/2RR3K w - - 1 1
>
>Very interesting... on my 733 MHz Pentium Shredder 7.04 only needs 2 minutes to
>realise that Black is winning. On the other hand, Fritz 8 fails miserably. After
>60 minutes Fritz 8 still evaluates the position as 1.04 in White's favour.

Oops..... maybe I judged the position too soon. I just let Shredder loose on the
position again, longer this time, and he changes his evaluation back to (almost)
even after 4½ minutes. This is the analysis after 15 minutes. The big jumps are
at 2:49 (0.20 to -7.86) and at 4:21 (-7.50 to -0.40).

Analysis by Shredder 7.04:

1.exd4 exd4
  +-  (1.75)   Depth: 1/1   00:00:00
1.exd4 exd4
  +-  (1.75)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
1.exd4 Qe4 2.dxe4
  +-  (2.00)   Depth: 2/12   00:00:00
1.exd4 Qe4 2.dxe4
  +-  (2.50)   Depth: 2/12   00:00:00
1.exd4 exd4 2.Bxd4
  +-  (2.59)   Depth: 2/12   00:00:00
1.exd4 exd4 2.Bxd4
  +-  (2.59)   Depth: 3/4   00:00:00
1.exd4 exd4 2.Qc5 Qe5 3.Qxd4
  +-  (2.37)   Depth: 4/9   00:00:00
1.exd4 Rh6 2.Kg1 Qh5 3.Rf1
  +-  (2.12)   Depth: 5/12   00:00:00
1.exd4 Rh6 2.dxe5 Qh3 3.Kg1 Qxh2+ 4.Kf1
  +-  (2.04)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00
1.exd4 Rh6 2.Qxc7 Nxc7 3.Rxc7
  +-  (1.79)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00
1.exd4 Rh6 2.h4 Rxh4+ 3.Kg1 exd4
  ±  (1.29)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00
1.exd4 Rh6 2.Rg1 Qh3 3.Rg2 Nf4 4.Rcg1 exd4 5.Qxc7 Qxh2+ 6.Rxh2 Rxh2+ 7.Kxh2 Nxe2
  ±  (1.29)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:00
1.Bxd4 exd4 2.e4 Qh3 3.exd5 Rg6 4.Rg1 Qxh2+ 5.Kxh2
  ±  (1.30)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:00
1.Bxd4 exd4 2.e4 Qh3 3.exd5 R8d7 4.Rg1 Rxd5
  +-  (1.55)   Depth: 6/21   00:00:00
1.Bxd4 exd4 2.e4 Qh3 3.exd5 Rc8 4.Rg1 Rxd5 5.Qc4
  +-  (1.54)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:01  110kN
1.exd4 Rh6 2.Rg1 Qh3 3.Rg2 Nf4 4.Rcg1 exd4 5.Qxc7 Qxg2+ 6.Rxg2 Rc6 7.bxc6
  +-  (1.55)   Depth: 7/27   00:00:01  182kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 exd4 3.Ba3 Rd5 4.Rg4
  +-  (1.74)   Depth: 7/27   00:00:02  335kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 exd4 3.Bf1 Qxb5 4.Qd2 Rc8 5.Qxf4 Qxb2
  +-  (1.62)   Depth: 8/28   00:00:03  450kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg4 Qh5 4.h4 Nxe2 5.Qxc7 Re8 6.Ra1 exd4 7.Bxd4
  ±  (1.37)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:06  754kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg4 Qh5 4.h4 Nxe2 5.Rcg1 Nxg1 6.Kxg1
  ±  (0.87)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:07  875kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg4 Qh5 4.h4 Nxe2 5.Qxe2 f5 6.Rxg7+ Kxg7 7.Rxc7+ Kf8
8.dxe5 Qxh4+ 9.Kg1
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:10  1201kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg3 Qh5 4.h3 Nxh3 5.Kg2 Nf4+ 6.Kf1 Rg6 7.Ke1 Nxe2 8.Kxe2
Qh1 9.Rxh1
  ²  (0.49)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:20  2488kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg4 Qh5 4.h4 Nxe2 5.Qxe2 f5 6.Rxg7+ Kxg7 7.Qxe5+ Kg8
8.Rg1+ Kf7 9.Qxc7+ Ke6 10.Qxd8 Qxh4+
  ±  (0.74)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:30  3853kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg4 Qh5 4.h4 f5 5.Qxc7 Ne6 6.Rxg7+ Kh8 7.Qe7 Re8 8.Rf7
Qxf3+ 9.Bxf3
  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 11/35   00:00:38  4988kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg4 Qh5 4.h4 Qxh4+ 5.Rxh4 Rxh4+ 6.Kg1 Rd6 7.Qxc7 Rg6+
8.Kf1 Rh1#
  ²  (0.70)   Depth: 12/34   00:00:50  6470kN
1.exd4 Nf4 2.Rg1 Rh6 3.Rg4 Qh5 4.h4 Qxh4+ 5.Rxh4 Rxh4+ 6.Kg1 Rd6 7.dxe5 Rg6+
8.Kf1 Rh1#
  =  (0.20)   Depth: 12/34   00:01:01  7952kN
1.exd4 Rh6 2.f4 Qxf4 3.Bh5 Rxh5 4.f3 Ne3 5.Qe2 Nxd1 6.Rxd1 Rxh2+ 7.Qxh2 Qxf3+
8.Qg2 Qxd1+
  -+  (-7.86)   Depth: 12/41   00:02:49  22397kN
1.Bxd4 Rh6 2.Rg1 exd4 3.exd4 Qh3 4.Rg2 Nf4 5.Rcg1 Rxd4
  -+  (-7.85)   Depth: 12/41   00:02:52  22986kN
1.Bxd4 Rh6 2.Rg1 exd4 3.exd4 Qh3 4.Rg2 Nf4 5.Rcg1 Rxd4 6.Qxc7 Nxg2 7.Rxg2 Rg6
8.Rxg6 Qxh2+
  -+  (-7.50)   Depth: 12/41   00:02:53  23141kN
1.Bxd4 Rh6 2.Rg1 exd4 3.Qc5 Rh4 4.Rg3 Qh5 5.Rg2 b6 6.Qc6 dxe3 7.fxe3 Nxe3
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 12/41   00:04:21  33976kN
1.Bxd4 Rh6 2.Rg1 exd4 3.Qc5 Rh4 4.Rg2 b6 5.Qc4 Qh3 6.Rcg1 dxe3 7.Qc1 Kh8
  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 13/37   00:05:34  43026kN
1.Bxd4 Rh6 2.Rg1 exd4 3.Qc5 Rh4 4.Rg3 Qh5 5.Rg2 b6 6.Qc6 dxe3 7.fxe3 Qe5
  ³  (-0.65)   Depth: 14/41   00:10:41  80045kN



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