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Subject: Re: The need to unmake move

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 15:32:46 08/29/03

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On August 29, 2003 at 08:46:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 28, 2003 at 19:12:52, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>But it's not more latency than you get *best case* when using a traditional SMP
>>setup.  So you can only gain, even with a "poor algorithm".
>
>If you compare an SMP xeon to a dual 486 you _also_ "win".

And what is that supposed to demonstrate?

>But my point was that with a NUMA architecture, you might win a lot less
>than you could, if the algorithm doesn't take into account the specific
>architectural issues with a NUMA machine.
>
>My point was, again, that you want most references from a CPU to go to its
>local memory for max performance.  It's an issue on _all_ NUMA-type machines.

Of course I know that.  My point is that with Opteron, even if you are accessing
non-local memory *always*, you are not accessing it slower than you would with,
say, a traditional SMP machine (2x Xeon, for instance).
Of course you can do a lot better - all I'm saying is that there's no way you're
going to be doing worse.

Either way you win, even with a crappy NUMA algorithm.



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