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Subject: Re: GM Kasparov stupider then most.......An overview of top programs!

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 11:11:54 08/30/03

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On August 30, 2003 at 12:34:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On August 30, 2003 at 11:48:30, Timmay wrote:
>
>>I agree with Garry's assessment (this is coming from a National Master by the
>>way email me for my information if you want to). First of all I think Junior 7.0
>>is stronger than Junior 8.0, its more realistic, more useful in analysis.
>
>I am surpruised to read it because Junior8 beated Junior7 in the ssdf games and
>it seems to be better than Junior7 based on results that I read against other
>programs.
>
>It may be interesting to see specific examples(positions when you found
>that Junior7 is better) inspite of the fact that the positions from your
>experience do not prove that you are right(see explanation later).
>
>Same for Tiger14 and Tiger15.
>
>
>I am not a master.
>My last israeli rating that is equivalent to Fide rating is 1997 but I think
>that I cannot trust opinions of masters about players that are stronger than
>them.
>
>I believe that there are a lot of positions that you do not know the best move
>(otherwise you could be better than master) so you cannot know which program
>suggests better move.
>
>You may know about specific cases when Junior7 suggest better moves than Junior8
>but they do not prove that Junior7 is better than Junior8 and it is possible
>that other positions are more important.
>
><snipped>
>> I think the best code anyone can put
>>in their program once the initial program is set is "mobility"! The best
>>programs believe in that a lot.
>
>I agree that mobility is important in chess.
>
>As a programmer of a program that is still significantly weaker than Junior or
>Fritz I know that increasing the score for mobility is one of the things that
>helped me to improve my program and I use only the number of moves to evaluate
>mobility so I am sure that there is a room for more improvement.
>
>Uri

I don't know if you get this show in Israel, but "Timmay" is a charcter in a
demented comedy cartoon programme called "South Park"....which I enjoy, from
time to time:o)

However, I wouldn't take any advice from a handicapped 8 year old cartoon
character from South Park who sits in a weelchair singing his name, "Timmay"
with a group of other cartoon characters who play in a band named "The Lords
of The Underworld"! ROTFL!





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