Author: Timmay
Date: 17:21:37 08/30/03
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On August 30, 2003 at 17:19:20, George Tsavdaris wrote: >Nice and interesting posts but... > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"And if I'm "on" and not distracted I could compete in the >tactics as well." >Compete in tactics against computers? Sorry but this seams the >best joke i heard this year. First of all thank you for the kind words. The intention of that top statement is not over-confidence in my abilities, but just confidence. If I'm on and feeling well, I can compete (NOT wipe the floor with....I chose my words carefully) with the tactics. I solely think of the chess game in front of me not my opponent necessarily (unless I'm playing humans). Part of my technique keeps things safe and protected, and I make it a point to rarely lose control against computers. And my main chess gift is calculation (but I have many faults too don't get me wrong!). I was born being able to see quite far ahead. I'm a lucky guy. >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >"But seriously, without opening books which are HUMAN knowledge gained over >years and years ALL the programs would be considerably weaker. Take away the >opening books of any top program and I bet 50 dollars I could beat it." > >Yes, but also chess players if they didn't study opening theory they >would be considerably weaker. >You could beat it, because you studied all the HUMAN knowledge, which gained >over years and years. >If we had computers playing from 1870 without opening book in 2000 MHz >hardware, and collect the best openings they would discover, i bet they >would have the same strength they have now. That's a valid comparison. But do computers study? grin. I'm not quite sure that statement would hold true about computers learning better openings if they were back in 1870...grin. I sense much defense in this forum. A computer program forum probably wasn't the best place to make a post like that I suppose! >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >"So don't criticize the human race by saying >such statements as "the question is if humans know what moves are better in >quieter positions." There's no doubt about it, we do!" > >Humans are better in quiet positions from computers, but >chess is enough complicated that the statement: >"humans know what moves are better in quieter positions" >is totally false. Well that "did" come out a bit wrong, I was typing fast I only had a little bit of time earlier this afternoon. A fair statement that we could agree on I think is "Humans are better than computers in quiet positions". That comes out better than my previous statement. Best wishes.
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