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Subject: Re: one vote for STAND QUIET from Mridul.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:55:17 08/31/03

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On August 31, 2003 at 09:06:52, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On August 30, 2003 at 13:20:04, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 2003 at 08:12:16, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On August 30, 2003 at 06:54:19, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 30, 2003 at 04:17:28, scott farrell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>1) Simple case :
>>>>>>[d] r1bqkb1r/pppp1ppp/2n2n2/4p3/3PP3/P4N2/1PP2PPP/RNBQKB1R b KQkq - 0 4
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Trivial to see that Bb4+ is to be not extended.
>>>>
>>>>>When i first saw your idea I was very excited. I tried that exact case, a check
>>>>>the does not capture, and can be captured by a pawn (I didnt look if the pawn is
>>>>>pinned against the king or other piece), and chompster's performance on WAC
>>>>>dropped significantly.
>>>>
>>>>>I think chompster has so much futility pruning, and search reductions code, that
>>>>>if we extended something stupid, it gets pruned fairly quickly or reduced (the
>>>>>opposite of extension).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is a more plausible explanation, that is, there are probably no good rules
>>>>not to extend checks, just extend them.
>>>>
>>>>My best,
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>I do not find something illogical in the original explanation
>>>
>>>I think that there are good rules not to extend checks but the rule that was
>>>used was not good enough and you may need more conditions not to extend in order
>>>not to do the mistake of not extending important moves.
>>
>>Well, as soon as you have found some rules please post.
>
>Checker is a lone attacker, undefended but attacked by non-pinned piece..?
>Happens all the time I think, just print incheck() positions from the tree.
>
>-S.

not good enough because pins are not the main problem here and I suspect that
indirect threats may be a bigger problem.

I do not want to discuss it(I already have one rule when not to extend checks
but I plan later to find more rules and telling other people about them meaning
losing my relative advantage).

Uri




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