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Subject: Re: one vote for STAND QUIET from Mridul.

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 05:43:04 09/02/03

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Hi Tord,

Comments Inline ,

Regards
Mridul

On September 02, 2003 at 08:37:47, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On September 01, 2003 at 05:42:54, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>
>>Futility : what works in qsearch cannot be applied to main search ;)
>
>If I interpret this correctly, you do use futility pruning in your qsearch.
>
>>In mess , I try out checking moves in qsearch. Also I try out , sometimes , even
>>loosing captures - especially if you are sure that the opponent does not have a
>>good move to respond with (Eg : The defender of the piece that we captured is
>>pinned , multiple/revealed check capture , etc) , then there is no harm in
>>trying this move !
>>Note : I dont try out funny stuff like lazy_eval_after_move + margin < alpha
>>then prune , stuff. NOR do I use lazy eval (have a eval cache though - since
>>mess has a bit heavy eval ... )
>
>But here, it seems like you state that you *don't* use futility pruning in
>your qsearch.  I'm a bit confused here ...
>
>Otherwise, your ideas look interesting, although it appears hard to make
>them work.
>
>Tord

  Comments of futility were generic in nature :)
If I understand correctly , futility was orginally meant for qsearch not main
search - and were "extended" for use in main search. But they are too
speculative in nature - even when used in qsearch.
  And yes , I dont use futility - even in qsearch , nor any form of generic
pruning.
  Other than things specific to mess in qsearch - like pruning "bad" moves in
qsearch (bad = !good moves - hence most of loosing captures , underpromotions ,
not so good tactical moves , etc get removed).

  Hope these were useful to you.



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