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Subject: Re: Position analysis - Fritz 8 took 8 minutes to find move!

Author: Richard Patterson

Date: 18:08:18 09/02/03

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On September 02, 2003 at 20:12:21, John Merlino wrote:

>On September 02, 2003 at 10:36:55, Richard Patterson wrote:
>
>>In this position Fritz 8 analysis took 8 minutes to find RD1-G1 but the move
>>score was not much different than the other two best moves QA7-C7 or RD1xD7. The
>>analysis was not much different 22 minutes with RD1-G1 still leading by .70 over
>>the other moves. The analysis at 30+ minutes gave RD1-G1 (+30.38) a decisive
>>advantage over moves #2 QA7-C7 (+16.06) and #3 RD1xD7 (+15.34).
>>
>>How does your favorite chess program see this position.
>>
>>Richard
>>
>>[d]2b5/Q2n3k/2p1p3/1p2Br2/p7/P3P2p/5P2/2KR4 w - - 0 27
>
>Chessmaster 9000, on a P4-2.4, needs 7:34 to find Rg1, and announces Mate in 13
>when it chooses it:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:00	1/3	9.31	2917		27.Rxd7+ Kg6 28.Rg7+ Kh5 29.Rh7+
>					Kg4 30.Qd4+ Kf3 31.Rxh3+ Kxf2
>0:00	1/4	11.75	9331		27.Rxd7+ Kg6 28.Rh7 Bb7 29.Qxb7
>					Rxf2 30.Qg7+ Kf5 31.Rxh3
>0:00	1/5	12.20	39566		27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.e4 Kg3 32.Qxf5
>0:00	1/6	12.91	91329		27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.Qg6+ Kf3 32.Qxf5
>					Kg3 33.Qg6+ Kf3 34.Qxc6+ Kxe3 35.Qxb5
>0:00	1/7	12.91	179440		27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.Qg6+ Kf3 32.Qxf5
>					Kg3 33.Qg6+ Kf3 34.Qxc6+ Kxe3 35.Qxb5
>0:02	1/8	13.19	537656		27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.Qg6+ Kf3 32.Qxf5
>					Kg3 33.Qe4 Kf2 34.f5
>0:08	2/9	14.79	2023359		27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.Qg6+ Kf3 32.Qxf5
>					Kg3 33.Qg5+ Kf3 34.Qh5+ Kxe3 35.Qxh3+
>					Ke4 36.Qh1+ Kf5 37.Qxc6
>0:29	3/10	14.92	7585028		27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.Qg6+ Kf3 32.Qxf5
>					Kg3 33.Qg5+ Kf3 34.Qh5+ Kxe3 35.Qxh3+
>					Ke4 36.Qg2+ Kf5 37.Qc2+ Kg4 38.Qxc6
>1:45	4/11	15.11	28225270	27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.Qg6+ Kf3 32.Qxf5
>					Kg3 33.Qg5+ Kf3 34.Qh5+ Ke4 35.Qh7+
>					Kf3 36.Qxh3+ Ke4 37.Bd6
>7:10	5/12	15.33	116982788	27.Rxd7+ Bxd7 28.Qxd7+ Kg6 29.Qxe6+
>					Kg5 30.f4+ Kg4 31.Qg6+ Kf3 32.Qxf5
>					Kg3 33.Qg5+ Kf3 34.Qh5+ Kg2 35.f5
>					c5 36.Qe2+ Kg1 37.Qh2+ Kf1 38.Qxh3+
>					Ke2
>7:34	5/12	Mate13	124074955	27.Rg1 h2 28.Bxh2 Rc5+ 29.Kb1 Bb7
>					30.Qxb7 Rd5 31.Qc8 Nf6 32.Qxe6
>					Rd1+ 33.Rxd1 Nd5 34.Qf7+ Kh6 35.Bf4+
>					Nxf4 36.Rh1+ Kg5 37.exf4+ Kg4 38.Qh5+
>					Kxf4 39.Rh4#
>
>jm

Hi John,

That sure is nice. I have CM9000 so I tried it. I have one question since I am
learning how all this relates. My Pentium 4 2.66 got mate in 13 with the
following stats

10:45   5/12     Mate13   202379725

My question is I have made no changes to CM9000 from a normal install and
updated on the internet but it shows 202379725 positions while you have
124074955. I knew nothing about chess programs and how they work a few months
ago, so I am trying to catch on quickly :)

Richard



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