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Subject: Re: Crafty and NUMA

Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto

Date: 11:27:24 09/03/03

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On September 03, 2003 at 14:17:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>You are hung up on the X86 SMP platform.  Forget X86.  Just think "SMP".
>
>Go look at the Cray XMP/YMP/C90/T90.  They use a crossbar.  _not_ a bus.
>A good C90 for example has 16 processors, 4096 banks of memory, all with a
>big crossbar connecting them.  any processor can access any bank in 120ns,
>unless two bang on the same bank.   Then there is a 10ns penalty or so
>added in (bank busy delay).
>
>The point is that SMP does _not_ mean "shared bus" except for the world of
>the PC and some other smaller SMP boxes (Sun, alpha, etc.)

"you give me two boxes that are identical except for SMP vs NUMA, the SMP box
will _always_ have a speed advantage."

To Cray or not to Cray, I have seen no proof of the above, on the
contrary. I gave a counterexample, which you've not refuted.

--
GCP



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