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Subject: Re: Crafty and NUMA

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:25:09 09/03/03

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On September 03, 2003 at 15:04:09, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On September 03, 2003 at 15:00:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>The SMP box will _always_ be faster for any application that shares _anything_
>>at all.  Because sharing will _always_ be faster on the SMP box, period.
>>
>>I don't know how it can be explained any simpler than that.
>
>Meh. This applies to Crays, apparently. It doesn't apply to real
>systems since none I ever worked with seemed to have a direct
>connection to memory. Are you saying SMP Intel boxes aren't really SMP?
>
>--
>GCP


They _are_ SMP in the strict sense.  Up to 4 processors.  Beyond 4, they
are somewhat of a kludge.  Check out the original "fusion" chipset to see
how the 8-way boxes were cobbled together, and no, those are not quite
SMP.

But for 2-way and 4-way, yes.

Bus vs crossbar is a design choice.  Bus doesn't scale beyond 4 very well.
Crossbar scales to 32-64 but becomes very pricey.  NUMA scales way on out
but has a routing bottleneck.



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