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Subject: Re: Crafty and NUMA

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 02:55:08 09/04/03

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Hi,

  My comments inline.

Regards
Mridul

On September 03, 2003 at 12:04:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 03, 2003 at 05:13:07, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>
<snip>
>>If it was just a bunch of tweaks that you mention here - I would love to see how
>>much performance it will give on a 64/128 proc NUMA box :)
>>I can make a guess - it will suck a**. (No offence to anyone here)
>
>You are mixing apples and oranges.  How will it do on a 128 node SMP
>box?  How will it do on a 128 node NUMA box?  _both_ will not do very well
>since things are not tuned for that many processors.  However, the original
>NUMA port did pretty well on a 32 CPU box.  Not as well as it would have done
>on a 32 CPU SMP box however.  But then NUMA won't _ever_ produce the same
>level of performance as pure SMP boxes will.  They are just much more
>affordable.
>

  If you properly design and implement a version of crafty _for_ NUMA and just
"tweak" a current version for NUMA (that was orginally written for SMP ?!) -
then do you expect both to give out same or even comparable performance ?!!
Ofcourse - I never said crafty wont work - it will - but the performance will be
pathetic as compared to the NUMA version.
Most likely the performance on a 64 proc NUMA box will turn out to be better
than a 128 proc NUMA box !!
Hence - to get this working properly on NUMA boxes (not itsy bitsy 8 or 16 proc
machines - though 16 proc box would be pretty cool to own ;) ) then you _do_
need a redesign and reimplementation - not a bunch of tweaks.
When I say redesign/reimplementation - I'm only refering to search , and mem
management : that is what is usually required.

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