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Subject: Re: what is your opinion of your program about that game

Author: John Merlino

Date: 07:52:52 09/05/03

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On September 05, 2003 at 10:40:37, Uri Blass wrote:

>This game was posted in the Israeli chess forum not as pgn
>names of the opponents is wrong so you can ignore it.
>
>White won but did not choose the right move at move 19 so I decided not to post
>the rest of the game.
>
>The claim was that d4 was a good move.
>
>part of the program likes this move but do not give white a decisive advantage
>so I am not sure if it is the best.
>
>I suspect that white got a better position mainly because of later moves.
>
>namely Bd4 and Bg7
>
>[Event "Blitz:4'+2""]
>[Site "eim"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "New game"]
>[Black "Crafty 19.01"]
>[Result "*"]
>[PlyCount "36"]
>[TimeControl "240+2"]
>
>{60MB, Shredder7.ctg, F3K9V7
>} 1. d3 c5 2. e4 Nc6 3. Nf3 g6 4. Be2 Bg7 5. O-O
>d6 6. Nbd2 Rb8 7. a4 a6 8. c3 b5 9. axb5 axb5 10. Qc2 Qb6 11. d4 cxd4 12. cxd4
>Bxd4 13. Nb3 Bg7 14. Be3 Qb7 15. Na5 Nxa5 16. Rxa5 Bd7 17. Ra7 Qc6 18. Qb3 h6 *

Chessmaster 9000 seems to agree with every move by White from 11.d4 to the end
of the move list that you posted. Actually, The King appears to want to play d4
on the 9th move.

The King does NOT agree with 12...Bxd4, and prefers 12...f5:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/5	0.75	32135		12...Bg4 13.d5 Ne5 14.Re1 Rc8 15.Qb3

0:00	1/6	0.75	66732		12...Bg4 13.d5 Ne5 14.Re1 Rc8 15.Qb3

0:01	1/7	0.92	152404		12...Bg4 13.d5 Ne5 14.Re1 Rc8 15.Qb3
					Bd7 16.Nxe5 Bxe5
0:02	1/8	0.92	369454		12...Bg4 13.d5 Ne5 14.Re1 Rc8 15.Qb3
					Bd7 16.Nxe5 Bxe5
0:04	1/8	0.86	654949		12...Bd7 13.d5 Na5 14.Nb3 Rc8 15.Qd3
					Nc4 16.Ra2 e5
0:07	1/9	0.92	1150167		12...Bd7 13.d5 Na5 14.Nb1 Rc8 15.Nc3
					Nc4 16.Qb3 h6 17.Bf4
0:20	1/10	1.01	3178156		12...Bd7 13.Nb3 Rc8 14.Qd1 e6 15.Be3
					Qb8 16.d5 exd5 17.exd5
0:31	1/10	0.98	4930849		12...Nh6 13.Nb3 O-O 14.d5 Nb4 15.Qd2
					Na6 16.Qg5 e5 17.Be3
0:44	1/10	0.94	7017161		12...Bxd4 13.Nb3 Bg7 14.Be3 Qb7
					15.Na5 Nxa5 16.Rxa5 Bd7 17.Rc1
					Rc8 18.Rxb5 Rxc2 19.Rxb7 Rxb2
0:55	1/10	0.91	8925735		12...f5 13.d5 Nb4 14.Qb3 Na6 15.Qe3
					Nf6 16.Qxb6 Rxb6 17.Nd4 Nxd5 18.Bxb5+
					Kf7
1:51	2/11	0.65	18406884	12...f5 13.d5 Nb4 14.Qb3 Na6 15.Qa3
					Nf6 16.Nb3 fxe4 17.Be3 Nc5 18.Nxc5
					exf3
3:37	3/12	0.64	37368612	12...f5 13.d5 Nb4 14.Qb3 Na6 15.exf5
					Bxf5 16.Nc4 bxc4 17.Qa4+ Kf8 18.Qxa6
					Bxb2 19.Qxb6 Rxb6 20.Bxb2 Rxb2
					21.Bxc4

The eval after 12...Bxd4 is only slightly worse -- 0.85.

And, of course, 18...h6 is a horrible move, but you probably already knew that.

jm



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