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Subject: Re: Blitz round-robin among Rebel 12, Junior 8 & Nimzo 8

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 00:49:36 09/07/03

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On September 06, 2003 at 21:27:04, Eelco de Groot wrote:

>On September 06, 2003 at 19:43:43, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>Athlon 1200, 4' + 2"
>>Junior & Nimzo using Fritz 8 book; Rebel using own book
>>
>>                  1             2             3
>>1 Junior 8  ************* 10½½01½1½1011 ½00111½10111½  16.5/26
>>2 Rebel 12  01½½10½0½0100 ************* 01010101½0110  11.5/26
>>3 Nimzo 8   ½11000½01000½ 10101010½1001 *************  11.0/26
>>
>>Nimzo blew many games, including not winning this one when up a Queen & more for
>>a Rook!:
>>
>>[White "Junior 8"]
>>[Black "Nimzo 8"]
>>
>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. g3 Ba6 5. b3 Bb4+ 6. Bd2 Be7 7. Bg2 c6 8.
>>Bc3 d5 9. Nbd2 Nbd7 10. O-O O-O 11. Re1 c5 12. e4 dxe4 13. Nxe4 Nxe4 14.
>>Rxe4 Bb7 15. Re3 Bf6 16. dxc5 Bxc3 17. Rxc3 Nxc5 18. Qe2 Qf6 19. Ne5 Bxg2
>>20. Kxg2 Nd7 21. f4 Nxe5 22. fxe5 Qe7 23. Rd1 Qc5 24. Rcd3 b5 25. Rd4 bxc4
>>26. Rxc4 Qb5 27. Qe4 Rad8 28. Rxd8 Rxd8 29. Rd4 Rc8 30. Qd3 Qb8 31. Rd7 a5
>>32. Qa6 a4 33. b4 a3 34. Qxa3 Qxe5 35. Qd3 Qb8 36. b5 Rf8 37. Kh3 e5 38. a4
>>Qe8 39. Qd6 e4 40. Re7 Qc8+ 41. Qd7 Qc4 42. Qf5 Qxa4 43. Rxe4 Qa7 44. Rf4
>>Rd8 45. Rf3 g6 46. b6 Qb7 47. Qf6 Re8 48. g4 Re6 49. Qd8+ Kg7 50. Qd4+ f6
>>51. Rb3 Re2 52. Qg1 h5 53. Qg3 Kg8 54. Qf3 hxg4+ 55. Kxg4 Qd7+ 56. Kg3 Qd6+
>>57. Qf4 Rg2+ 58. Kxg2 Qxf4 59. b7 Qe4+ 60. Kg3 Qe5+ 61. Kf2 Qf4+ 62. Kg2
>>Qd2+ 63. Kh3 Qd7+ 64. Kg3 Qd6+ 65. Kf2 Qxh2+ 66. Ke1 Qg1+ 67. Kd2 Qf2+ 68.
>>Kd1 Qd4+ 69. Kc2 Qe4+ 70. Kd1 Qd5+ 71. Kc2 Qf5+ 72. Kc3 Qe5+ 73. Kc4 Qb8
>>74. Kc5 Kf7 75. Kc6 f5 76. Ra3 Qe8+ 77. Kb6 Qe6+ 78. Ka7 Qd7 79. Ra6 g5 80.
>>Ka8 Qd5 81. Ka7 Qd4+ 82. Ka8 Qe4 83. Ka7 Qe3+ 84. Ka8 Qf3 85. Ka7 Qf2+ 86.
>>Ka8 Qg2 87. Ka7 1/2-1/2
>
>Hello Roy,
>
>There may be some caveats when running Rebel as an UCI engine in Fritz, as it
>wasn't designed for that. I doubt if the interfacing has been has been tested
>much by Ed or Lokasoft. Ed wrote about the first version of the prerelease:


Hi Eelco,

All that has been solved in the final version, Rebel now runs smoothly under
Fritz and co. Installation description at:

http://members.home.nl/matador/rebel12.htm

Groetjes,

Ed


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>
>
>Posted by Ed Schröder (Profile) on July 23, 2003 at 05:28:44:
>Hi folks,
>
>Tries have been made by various people to run the pre-release of Rebel 12 under
>other interfaces such as ChessBase, Chess Assistant, Arena. While I of course
>have nothing against that I think it is important for you to realize a couple
>things, also I want to clear up some misunderstandings I have seen in various
>forums.
>
>1) First of all realize Rebel 12 is developed to run under the Chesspartner
>interface, for that it uses the winboard communication protocol with its own
>specific extensions exclusively for the Chesspartner interface only. Therefore
>it is a small wonder Rebel seems to run smoothly under other interfaces, however
>this could be misleading.
>.
>.
>.
>3) When running Fritz and co keep in mind that the only solid way to change the
>hash table size or choose a different personality is to change the command-line
>parameter in the WB2UCI.ENG file, see:
>
>[OPTIONS]
>Program = Rebel12.exe w8 beta1.eng
>
>w8 = hash table size of 200 Mb
>w7 = hash table size of 100 Mb  .... see further the README file.
>
>beta1.eng = the personality of your choice.
>
>Then after having made the changes restart Fritz, or make sure the Rebel engine
>is reloaded again using F3.
>
>Some comments on this:
>
>a) Don't rely on what Fritz is telling you regarding the hash table size, the
>only real hash table size is defined in the command line, see above. Same for
>the personality issue.
>
>b) HINT - make a shortcut of WB2UCI.ENG on your desktop for easy changes or easy
>viewing the contents.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>5) It is my intention to make Rebel a working winboard engine so that it can run
>under other chess interfaces as well, this because as I estimate the work
>involved is not too much and I know it will please many of you. In the meantime
>keep the Chesspartner interface as your reference regarding playing strength,
>other interfaces I can't authorize at this moment.
>
>6) A word of thanks to all of you who made it possible to get Rebel to work
>under other interfaces, first to "Odd Gunnar Malin" the author of WB2UCI,
>secondly to the CCC and CSS folks who with unbridled energy made this possible!
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ed Schroder
>
>
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>
>
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>-------------------------------------------------------
>
>I don't know if all that also applies to the update of the prerelease but
>possibly so. In the prerelease under ChessPartner itself I also have sometimes
>problems changing the hash table size, and you have to check the param.txt file
>to see if the proper amount of memory is loaded. Sometimes I set the hashtable
>size in ERT first and then switch to ChessPartner again, as that seems to work
>better.
>
>Did you use the Beta1 settings or some other settings for Rebel?
>
>Regards,
>
>Eelco



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