Author: Kim Roper Jensen
Date: 05:28:20 09/07/03
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On September 07, 2003 at 08:14:28, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 07, 2003 at 08:05:33, Kim Roper Jensen wrote: > >>On September 07, 2003 at 07:53:18, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On September 07, 2003 at 07:42:00, Kim Roper Jensen wrote: >>> >>>>On September 06, 2003 at 23:59:16, Dieter Buerssner wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 06, 2003 at 21:58:14, Kim Roper Jensen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Position from the game Larsen - Kavalek Montreal Tournament of Stars >>>>>> >>>>>>[D]1k6/8/B3K1P1/5P2/1pRr2Nn/2b5/8/8 b - - >>>>>> >>>>>>Only move here for black is Nxf5 and get both white pawns and it should be a >>>>>>draw - according to the notes by Whiteley (its taken from the tournament book, >>>>>>by Tal, Chepizhny & Roshal) >>>>> >>>>>Which move or line do you suggest after Nxf5 Kxf5? With a bit more time, Yace >>>>>will not give drawish score anymore. Is it really a draw? >>>>> >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Dieter >>>>> >>>>>PS. I dod not really understand your followup about taking the g pawn with B vs. >>>>>R. Can you suggest a line in that case as well? At the time, where the g7-pawn >>>>>could be captured in the line shown by Yace, it was only possible with the B. >>>>>So, you obviously wanted to suggest a line, that is different earlier. already? >>>>> >>>>>Regards, >>>>>Dieter >>>> >>>>the last part of with the B against the R thingie must have been a glitch inside >>>>my organic processor :) But i think everytime black gets both white pawns its a >>>>draw... see variations >>> >>>I think that it is not clear and a program should not have a draw score. >>> >>>It may be possible to win by mate attack even without promotion and the side >>>with the piece advantage has practical chances. >>> >>>Uri >> >>I dont think that White can win it, when both white pawns are taken. And most >>lines given by computer is with rooks swapped also this will not enhance the >>winning chances, rather the opposite.. > >I agree that trading rooks is wrong but you did not criticizing programs for >allowing trade of rooks but for their evaluation. > >Uri Well I wouldnt call it critisizing, I just wanted to see if any programs evaluated this as a draw ...
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