Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 18:22:16 09/07/03
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On September 07, 2003 at 18:53:11, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On September 07, 2003 at 18:08:14, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On September 07, 2003 at 17:17:31, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On September 07, 2003 at 17:06:18, George Jones wrote: >>> >>>>On September 07, 2003 at 16:53:35, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 14:28:18, George Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 14:19:25, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 14:13:22, Afzal Siddique wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 13:29:38, George Jones wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>There was a very simple technique for using chessmaster in fritz renaming the >>>>>>>>>king engine to deadking, anyone have a link to these instructions? I forgot how >>>>>>>>>to do it and no longer have the link, thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>well i dont have its site but i have all the contents of deadking zipped.. soo >>>>>>>>if u want it u jus gimme a mail at afzalsiddique@hotmail.com and i will reply >>>>>>>>back with the zipped file >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Afzal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We all should not support tools that are determined to crack >>>>>>> commercial software. >>>>>>> Kurt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Excuse me, I am a Registered Owner of CM9000. >>>>> >>>>>Even as a registered user, if you are using deadking, you are using illegal >>>>>software which is forbidden topic here based on the charter. Period - end of >>>>>story. No more posts about deadking in this forum. You may post deadking >>>>>question at r.g.c.c as that forum is unmoderated. >>>>> >>>>>Michael Byrne >>>>>Moderator >>>> >>>> >>>> I didn't know that deadking was illegal or pirated software, did you ever once >>>>think that as a possiblility before you "Rushed to Judgement" >>>>although frankly I don't feel guilty one bit I Paid my 30 dollars for the >>>>product so you and whoever else can go to hell period!! >>> >>>Why such nerves? He didn't accuse you for something. He said only that >>>discussions about pirated software is a forbidden topic in this forum. >>>Although i disagree that deadking is something illegal. If you purchased >>>CM9000 then i think it's legal to use deadking. >>>Anyway we should define pirated/illegal software, because perhaps Mike's >>>definition might be different from mine. >> >>My definition is quite simple. If the software violates the licenisng >>agreement, it is illegal. I have read the UBI Soft licensing agreement and like >>most agreements, distrubuting licensed modified code to others (registered or >>not registered ) users is prohibited. That is exactly what deadking is, it is a >>distributution of modified code that was governed by the licensing agreement >>which explicitly forbade that. >> >>But perhaps, I am wrong -- so I will pose the question to the author of the "The >>King" and one of our esteemed members of CCC, Johan de Koning, about the >>legality of "deadking". >> >>Johan - are your views of the legality of the "deadking" - modified "the king" >>engine code that allows the user to use the "The King" engine in the Fritz >>enviroment without ever requiring the OPK code? >> >>Best, >> >>Michael > > Ok, the deadking violates the licensing agreement, but i would give a >definition of software that must be forbidden to use and illegal. > If someone provides a program-A, that allows user to run another >program-B(commercial) with an improved way, but with indispensable the presence >of program-B for being able to run program-B with the improved way, then the >program-A is not illegal. > This means that, if deadking allows user to have The King inside >Fritz GUI or anywhere else, but without the need of having the legal copy of The >King then it's illegal and the creator and users are illegal. I think my rule is easier to follow, understand and implement. If it violates the licensing agreement, it's not suitable for posting on this forum. I could care less whether or not it makes it easier for someone to use the program. There is always r.g.c.c and many people post on that newsgroup that IMO would be able to help anyone with deadking if they need help. They just can't get that help here. That's the Charter that was written by people way smarter than me and I think we should follow our own Charter. If the Charter was written a different way, do you think ICD/Your MOve and Chess would like to support a forum that allowed widespread discussion about pirate and cracked software? Do you think that commercial authors of Chess Program would contribute to the Chess Forum as much as they do? Best, Michael Byrne
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