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Subject: Re: What to do with Horizon effect?

Author: Inmann Werner

Date: 04:15:57 11/03/98

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>>*********
>>I tried something with null move.
>>
>>Problem: you can make a mate with the next move, but the opponent checks you as
>>long as it goes beyond the horizon.
>>I now only talk about this specific problem. I think, it often occurs and know,
>>that a "solution" for this problem does not stop horizon effect all.
>>
>>My thought: When the opponent is on move, I do a null move and one own move and
>>then quiet search. If a mate occurs here, I remember it, and pass it to the next
>>alpha_beta recursion which is my move. Only if a am checked at this time, I
>>extend 2 moves (not only one for the check) as long as extensions are allowed.
>>(Max Extensions...)
>>So I only extend if I can mate in one and the opponent slides out with a check!
>>There are also some limitations when doing the special null move, but there I am
>>experimating.
>>
>>My position above then gets solved at ply 6!!!!!
>>I tried some other positions with heavy threats and checks, where no real mate
>>can be made (worse for my algoritm). There it slows down about 10%, because it
>>looks deeper in maybe interesting things which in this case do not work.
>>
>>I must say, that I implemented above 3 hours ago, and 3 hours testing is not
>>much, but it is worth to think about.
>>
>>Werner
>
>
>my advice is "caution" doing this.  IE Crafty finds this at depth=10, about
>10 seconds or so on my ALR.  It's not hard to make it find it at depth=6 or
>7.  But would it play better in games?  No...  it is *easy* to over-extend and
>find wonderful tactics but get killed positionally...

But that would be a principle problem of extensions. If I do not extend in any
case, I can fasten up my program extremly, getting 1 ply deeper.
The question is, when to extend.
Many say, at checks and beats on the same field, because here it gets
interesting.
I do so, and the search slows down. Gets the program then a worse play?
Same I thought about mate threats and extensions. Aren“t they worth an
extension?

Werner



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