Author: Robin Smith
Date: 19:16:03 09/08/03
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On September 08, 2003 at 20:45:38, Mike Byrne wrote: >On September 08, 2003 at 20:29:38, Robin Smith wrote: > >>On September 08, 2003 at 19:59:17, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>On September 08, 2003 at 19:47:04, George Jones wrote: >>> >>>>On September 08, 2003 at 19:38:21, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>> >>>>>another poster has been warned ...further postings may result in temporary or >>>>>permanent banning ... >>>> >>>> >>>>I didn't read anything in Dekonig Message that objected to the use of Deadking >>>>then why should you?? You seem to be in the extreme Minority with this Weird >>>>Objection of yours. >>> >>>No, I believe you are in the minority and I think folks that agree with me >>>should start speaking up -- it does look like I am the lone wolf here. >>> >>>Michael >> >>The silent majority .... hmmmm. Where did I hear that one before? Michael, if >>you were standing up against software piracy I would be the first person to >>speak up on your side. But that is not what you are doing. You are standing up >>for the repression of freedom; the freedom of people who paid for software to be >>able to use their software how they see fit. UBI Soft does not own the copy of >>the software I purchased. They own the intellectual property. I have no right to >>violate their intellectual property rights. I have no right to give their >>intellectual property to someone else. But making their software more useable >>for me does not do any of that. Perhaps that no-one is speaking up for your side >>might tell you something? > >You are not persuasive. What about the rights of the authors to be paid for >their software if used. I am all in favor of the rights of authors to be paid. Using deadking does not prevent authors from being paid. Only using CM software that was not purchased prevents the author from being paid. Ironically I might not have purchased my copy of Chessmaster if deadking did not exist. I NEVER use CM in the CM GUI. In the CB GUI I use it a lot. > There is a balance, where that line should be drawn varies by people. There is a line, as there should be, and that line does *not* vary by people. It is called the law. The law is not on UBI Soft's side in this case. > I this case I have made my position clear. Keep im mind the >only I'm restriciting here is making the "deadking" a non grata subject for >links and postings. You can still go to r.g.c.c and post and link to your heart >content about "deadking" I never have, nor ever will do so. I *will* defend peoples right to do so. >I can tell you about the repression of freedom. Not too long ago, we had a new >member who signed up with the handle of "mynigga". To some that was just a >handle. But to others, including me - that was a racist handle meant to torment >and hurt our black members. To some people, restricting handles to "non racist" >is a restriction of freedom. But to me and others, it is a restriction of >freedom if we allow our members to be subject to such torment and hate. I agree with your decision 100%. And I don't think it has any relevance to the topic of deadking, except for your right as moderator to make such decisions. I have always agreed you have that right. And I reiterate, I applaud your decision regarding the offensive handle. I come to a moderated forum in part to get away from such things. But not to have people tell me I can't use something I bought in the way I intended to use it when I bought it. >So I >understand your position, but it must be balances with the rights of others - in >this case the chess programming authors. > >They have rights too! Of course they do! I never said they don't. And I will defend their legal rights, too. You seem to think that I am advocateing piracy. I am not. But the rights of programmers does not extend beyond what has been legally established. They do NOT have the right to tell me how to use software I purchased from them, for my own private use. -Robin P.S. Did you ever see Borland's Kylix license agreement? "12. AUDIT. During the term of this License and for one (1) year thereafter, upon reasonable notice and during normal business hours, Borland or its outside auditors will have the right to enter your premises and access your records and computer systems to verify that you have paid to Borland the correct amounts owed under this License and determine whether the Products are being used in accordance with the terms of this License. You will provide reasonable assistance to Borland in connection with this provision. You agree to pay the cost of the audit if any underpayments during the period covered by the audit amount to more than five percent (5%) of the fees actually owed for that period."
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