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Subject: Re: What to do with Horizon effect?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:19:09 11/03/98

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On November 03, 1998 at 10:01:23, Inmann Werner wrote:

>>
>> IE Crafty finds this at depth=10, about
>>10 seconds or so on my ALR.  It's not hard to make it find it at depth=6 or
>>7.  But would it play better in games?  No...  it is *easy* to over-extend and
>>find wonderful tactics but get killed positionally...
>
>Wow!
>How do you come done at this position to depth 10 in 10 seconds? How fast
>is your ALR or is Crafty so fast?
>
>Werner


I search about 350K nodes per sec in this position on the quad processor
pentium pro/200mhz box...  fast, but not incredibly fast by any measure...

Just that the extensions are dangerous... and I'm not yet happy with what I
do.  IE here is another position that is interesting:  win at chess 213.  I
ran this on my notebook and got this output, which I consider alarming
in that I don't believe I want to be searching deeply enough to find this
32 ply variation in this time limit, because I am probably searching other
such lines too deeply and wasting lots of time...


                14     6:20   6.06   1. Rxh7+ Kxh7 2. Qh5+ Kg8 3. Rxg7+
                                     Kxg7 4. Bh6+ Kh7 5. Bg5+ Kg7 6. Qh6+
                                     Kf7 7. Qf6+ Kg8 8. Qg6+ Kh8 9. Bf6+
                                     Rxf6 10. exf6 Qxe1+ 11. Kxe1 Nxd3+
                                     12. Kf1 Rd7 13. Qe8+ Kh7 14. Qxd7+
                                     Ne7 15. Qxb7 Nc5 16. Qxe7+ Kg6


It's nice to find such stuff, but the question is, "is this reasonable use
of available time?"  I'm suspicious it is not...



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