Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:39:36 09/11/03
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On September 11, 2003 at 05:51:24, Uwe Meißner wrote: >On September 10, 2003 at 12:59:21, Uri Blass wrote: > >>There is a correspondense player(ICCF rating 2384 and Fide rating 2269) >>who believes that he can achieve no worse than 5-1 against computers in the same >>conditions that Arno Nickel plays(2585 Elo in cc) >> >>see >>http://www.correspondencechess.com/bbs/messages/49460.html >> >>He told me by email that he is also interested in playing a similiar match. >>I do not think that chessbase will agree (they have not infinite computer time) >>but I thought that maybe it is possible to use some posters here as operaters(I >>do not have computer time for that task) >> >>What is your opinion? >> >>Can he get 5-1 against computers? >>Are there people with fast hardware that can give their computers to play >>against him(we need 6 different fast computers when Tansel Turgut does not >>know the programs that he is playing). >> >>Uri > >I think Tansel Turgut will not win even one game when he carries on to >underestimate the engines as he did in his message to the TCCBM (discussion >board of the ICCF). >He just only wants to present himself and thinks, well if an ICCF GM like Nickel >expects to win 4,5 : 1,5 , then will I have to win with a half point more. I think that you underestimate Tansel. I heard from him that he beated moshe glazman and I could do only 2 draws with him. He is stronger player than his correspondence rating suggest and I guess that he is not weaker than players with rating near 2600. I know that he beated moshe glazman(ICCF rating of 2402) and moshe glazman also should get better rating than he really has I know for example that moshe glazman drew all games that he played with Dov Rozenberg(today rating of 2582 and my history record against him is 2.5/3) and won all games that he played with Peli, Dr. Giora(today rating of 2460). I believe that the system is simple against new players and the main problem is the static numbers that new players get and a strong new player may get initial rating of 1800 and reduce the rating of the opponents when the opponents are only the new players and not players with high rating who escape from playing with players with small rating. I doubt if Tansel is weaker than Nickel and it is possible that he is even stronger than him. I suspect that ICCF is similiar to ICC and players may get high rating by playing against the right opponents. Uri
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