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Subject: Re: about the correspondence tournament against computers

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 10:05:08 09/11/03

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On September 11, 2003 at 11:40:55, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 11, 2003 at 11:11:19, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On September 11, 2003 at 05:43:15, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On September 10, 2003 at 19:15:11, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 10, 2003 at 12:59:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>There is a correspondense player(ICCF rating 2384 and Fide rating 2269)
>>>>>who believes that he can achieve no worse than 5-1 against computers in the same
>>>>>conditions that Arno Nickel plays(2585 Elo in cc)
>>>>>
>>>>>see
>>>>>http://www.correspondencechess.com/bbs/messages/49460.html
>>>>>
>>>>>He told me by email that he is also interested in playing a similiar match.
>>>>>I do not think that chessbase will agree (they have not infinite computer time)
>>>>>but I thought that maybe it is possible to use some posters here as operaters(I
>>>>>do not have computer time for that task)
>>>>>
>>>>>What is your opinion?
>>>>>
>>>>>Can he get 5-1 against computers?
>>>>
>>>>Of course he can get a 5-1. That is no problem at all.
>>>>It is just very time-consuming (and somewhat boring).
>>>
>>>Maybe for you it is going to be boring but I think that it may be interesting
>>>for programmers to see what weaknesses their program have at long time control.
>>>
>>>If the programs are strong enough you cannot get better than 3-3 and if the
>>>programs do losing mistakes even when they get many hours then learning what are
>>>the mistakes that they do may be interesting for programmers.
>>
>>You can hardly call it weakness.
>
>I can call it weakness.
>If the machines play well enough then it is impossible to do better than 3-3.

It will be impossible to do better than 3-3 if the machines play almost perfect.

That is still a long way off.


>
>Finding positions when machines are stupid is easy to do but it does not
>prove that it is possible to get them in most of the games.

It is still possible. Just be clever.

Michael

 >
>Uri



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