Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 11:39:24 09/11/03
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On September 11, 2003 at 14:23:41, Bob Durrett wrote: >On September 11, 2003 at 13:49:02, Jeroen van Dorp wrote: > >>On September 11, 2003 at 13:32:35, Bob Durrett wrote: >> >> >>>Yes, I DO want to expand Chessbase 8's capabilities with respect to analysis >>>engines and do not feel any shame in that. I feel no obligation at all to use >>>Chessbase SOLELY as a database management tool. Why should I? >> >>I don't see a single reason why you should, just because I have different >>preferences. >>As long as CB stays a database application. Time and effort is limited, so >>implementing new - non standard database features is likely to harm implementing >>or improving new database features. >> >>CA7 is a fierce competitor of CB8; a lot of people think so because of the >>possibiliy to play on ICC, and implement multiple engines for analysis. I don't >>play myself online as it's all blitz and I don't think blitz is chess at all, >>and for full game analysis I use the Fritz GUI. >>But what I really want is the faser-fast search and tree building possibilities >>of CA7 - according to many outperforming CB8 by a street lenght. >> >>Now if they start working on "popular" additions they could well drop the >>database additions. Not that CB8 is a crappy product, far from that, but I would >>like to see them concentrate on database functionality. >> >>I see a lot of postings and answer a lot of questions by people asking about CB >>software, including CB8. I would say 75% of all CB8 users don't have the need to >>use CB8 - they could be happy with the Fritz GUI database function. >>If they did it would also mean that CB8 would become more pricey, but it could >>be well worth the dough with even more and especially better database >>performance. >> >>"Gentleman - we can rebuild him. We have the technology. <...> Better than he >>was before. Better - stronger -faster." >> >>Jeroen > >I like your observations. Except for our obvious difference of opinion >regarding use of analysis engines under CB8, we have much in common. But . . . > >You and I, Jeroen, are in a VERY small minority here at CCC it seems to me. > >Most people here seem to be preoccupied with chess engines. Their interest in >GUIs and interfaces is as a "necessary evil." Similarly almost no one here, I >suspect, is actually a serious user of chess database management software as you >and I seem to be and they use GUIs only "as required." [Maybe that's why >Winboard is so popular here . . . it's a bare-bones minimum-hassle bit of >software that does the job adequately but minimally.] > >Also, I doubt that there are any "GUI designers" present. Most here are >engine-oriented! To an engine designer, GUI's are something you worry about >only when it becomes absolutely necessary and not before. > >There is, however, a crowd of "engine testers" present. They use GUIs. My >guess is that GUIs are a necessary evil for them, too. > >I would almost be willing to bet $1,000,000. that there are no "database >software designers/programmers" present in this forum!!!! I´ll bet you. You'd lose the bet. Victor Zakharov is a database software designer and sometimes present in this forum. Michael > >Our "open letters" to the chessbase people probably go unheard. > >: ) > >Bob D.
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