Author: Dirk Frickenschmidt
Date: 14:37:41 11/03/98
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On November 03, 1998 at 16:46:02, Fernando Villegas wrote: Hi Fernando, if a dozen or not - Moritz has a lot to do with mathematics right now :-) - I find the news fine as well. 1. Any new version of Dave Kittingers program is what I have been waiting for since quite a while (my three Wchess installs having had no chance at all to survive all hardware upgrades). 2. I am sure if Richard Lang provides something new it will be nice; for sure concerning the program interface (Genius5 was very handy from my view), and probably - after such a while - also concerning playing strength. 3. Shredder, always a bit underestimated in public, surely is worth a look as well. 4. i dare to doubt if someone who gets Nimzo99 in two weeks will get much more with Nimzo 2000 *if* available soon. :-) I don't know enough about the present Zarkov to say anything about it. 5. As customer I can only find it useful if the competition is kept alive and well: this leads to faster product development and nice prices, though it might also reduce the market to four or five programs/companies who can live with the stronger competition. 6. I hope the names "Nimzo 2000" and "Wchess2000" do not indicate that you will be able to buy Genius6 end of 1998 and the other two in the year 2000. :-)) From where do you get the information that they all will be sold in one package end of *this* year? Haven't seen that on the Millenium page, but perhaps I missed some, only browsing through it for a moment. But I will at least be strongly interested in getting Genius6 together with Wchess2000 at a decent price, not wanting to have to pay other engines I don't want (at least not yet) in one big package which then would be overpriced for my purposes. We'll soon know more (latest until December) :-). Kind regards from Dirk >On November 03, 1998 at 13:53:31, Moritz Berger wrote: > >>On November 03, 1998 at 12:05:30, Fernando Villegas wrote: >> >>>Hi all: >>>When you see the incredible package Millenium is going to offer, -see gambitsoft >>>news- with half a dozen ultra top programs instead of just two ultra top with >>>some second best engines around as Chessbase does, then you can understand the >>>lightning speed of Ed price slashing. I sincerely doubt that anybody here will >>>be capable of resisting such a package, even if the price is around 150 >>>bucks...and it will be considerable less, so some people told me. And you know >>>that nobody here, not even idiots like me, are willing to expend an unlimited >>>amount of money purchasing all. If you get A, you does not get B, so simple like >>>that. Sure that this rule is what was and still stay in Ed's mind. >>>Fernando >> >>quote from www.computerchess.de: >> >>Shredder 3 (Stefan Meyer-Kahlen) >>Nimzo 2000 (Chrilly Donninger) >>W-Chess 2000 (Dave Kittinger) >>Zarkov 2000 (John Stanback) >>GrandmasterBook II (the ultimate opening CD-ROM) >> >>Top engines: Genius 6, Shredder 3, Nimzo 2000 >>THREE (3) top engines >>TWO "runners up" (2): Zarkov, W-Chess >>No engine at all: GrandmasterBook II >> >>If you assume a 200 point rating gain from W-Chess to W-Chess 2000, then that's >>FOUR (4) top engines >> >>ChessBase offers: >>Fritz 5 (16 and 32 bit) >>Hiarcs 6 (16 bit) >>Junior 5 (32 bit) >>Nimzo 99 (32 bit) >>FOUR (4) "ultra"-top engines. >> >>TWO "runners up" (2): Crafty, Comet >> >> >>Please get your numbers right, Fernando ;-) >> >>BTW, I'm glad to get a new version of Genius plus a new W-Chess from Kittinger; >>I can't hardly await to buy it. I just hope that they don't mess up the copy >>protection this time like with Genius 5, Shredder 2 (CD required at each start >>if you use Windows NT) and W-Chess 1.04 (program gone after 3 installs). >> >>Moritz > > >OK, Moritz, maybe I do not know to count, but then you does not know when you >are facing a metaphor. "Half a dozen" is a way to say that something is above 3 >o 4 units but less than 10, more or less. Is just a verbal tool, not a >mathematic one. Besides, is Chessbase giving all that NOW? You get it at once as >in Millenium, in the package, or you must purchase it as a different >merchandise? So what I meant is that Millenium will give you a complete and >amazing package at once with "half a dozen" top programs -"ultra" was, also, a >metaphor- and that is new or so I believe. But all this does not matter. Like >you, I am already provisioning funds to purchase that thing. And yes, I hope too >not stupids decision on behalf of safety devices for avoiding copies. >Fernando
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