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Subject: Re: No I meant mate in 3

Author: John Merlino

Date: 08:18:53 09/12/03

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On September 12, 2003 at 11:07:16, Dana Turnmire wrote:

>On September 12, 2003 at 09:25:55, Markus Pillen wrote:
>
>>On September 12, 2003 at 08:05:16, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On September 12, 2003 at 06:50:45, Markus Pillen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 12, 2003 at 02:15:13, Dana Turnmire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 12, 2003 at 02:13:56, Dana Turnmire wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In the following position Chessmaster 9000 finds mate in 3 in a matter of
>>>>>>seconds yet Genius 7 will only find mate in 14 in 45 seconds. It doesn't matter
>>>>>>if I change the selective search to brute strength or anything in between. For
>>>>>>some reason Genius cannot find it.  Even in the "find mate" mode.  Strange.  [
>>>>>[d] 3R4/3R3p/5p1k/6n1/8/1P2QPPq/r7/6K1 w - -
>>>>
>>>>Analysis by Chessmaster 9000,
>>>>he can“t find a Mate in 3 in a matter of seconds
>>>>Best regards
>>>>Markus
>>>
>>>I guess that the poster meant mate in 13 but did not press the 1 strong enough.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Yes, 10 min after my post i came to the same result :-)
>>
>>Markus
>
>The mentor lines gives -Mate03 in 5 seconds. 1. Qe2 Rxe2 2. Rxh7+ Nxh7 3. Rh8
>Qg2#
>
>When I enter the move 1. Qe2 in Genius 7 it immediately states Mate in 3.
>[d] 3R4/3R3p/5p1k/6n1/8/1P2QPPq/r7/6K1 w - -

You're confused by the scoring notation. When a Mate in announced with a
negative sign in front of it, it means Mate for BLACK. This is why it cannot
find the mate in 3 for White in your initial position, because there isn't one.
After moving 1.Qe2, it is a mate in 3 for Black.

And also, on my P4-2.4 (and I imagine on almost any machine), CM9000 should
announce mate in 3 IMMEDIATELY after 1.Qe2 (not five seconds as you mention
above).

jm



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