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Subject: Re: about the correspondence tournament against computers

Author: Uwe Meißner

Date: 17:43:14 09/12/03

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On September 12, 2003 at 06:47:59, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 12, 2003 at 03:36:17, Uwe Meißner wrote:
>
>>On September 11, 2003 at 06:39:36, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I believe that the system is simple against new players and the main problem is
>>>the static numbers that new players get and a strong new player may get initial
>>>rating of 1800 and reduce the rating of the opponents when the opponents are
>>>only the new players and not players with high rating who escape from playing
>>>with players with small rating.
>>>
>>>I doubt if Tansel is weaker than Nickel and it is possible that he is even
>>>stronger than him.
>>>
>>>I suspect that ICCF is similiar to ICC and players may get high rating by
>>>playing against the right opponents.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>That's not right. There are very big differences between the rating systems of
>>ICCF and ICC. In ICC you can play many times against the same opponent - one
>>reason for strong tendency of inflation. You can manupulate your rating by
>>serveral methods. In ICCF there aren't such things, you just have to qualify for
>>stronger tournaments and this might take some time, that's the problem.
>
>
>Not exactly.
>
>If your country know that you are at the same level as 2600 players then they
>can put you in the first board of the olympiad and you do not need to play
>against strong players with low rating .
>
>It does not happen in Israel and they use only rating to decide about the order
>of the boards.
>
>They do not ask players how much computer time they can use for the tournament
>in order to consider the information for their decisions.
>
>Uri

Well, here you might be right, though I do not know such cases. I suppose,
mostly the players with a higher rating would not accept a lower rated player to
be on a top board (except perhaps a FIDE GM).
Besides, the ICCF rating system is not without any critics, but this is another
story. For instance can someone start to play 100 cc games at a low rating level
(2000) and if he wins most of these games against low rated opponents he will do
a jump up to 2500 without having played any opponent rated 2400 or more.
I think this is the most crucial case of overrated players.

Uwe



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