Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 13:25:22 09/14/03
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On September 14, 2003 at 15:40:24, Bob Durrett wrote: >On September 14, 2003 at 14:06:56, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On September 14, 2003 at 04:45:04, Alastair Scott wrote: >> >>>On September 13, 2003 at 21:25:41, Bob Durrett wrote: >>> >>>>I see now that my bulletin in this thread was misleading. I would use my >>>>regular PC to obtain a collection of games and put it into a named database. I >>>>would then simply COPY it into the handheld's memory storage element [which >>>>takes the place of a hard disk or floppy]. I would never attempt to perform >>>>database management on a handheld. >>>> >>>>Consider Kasparov's new book, "Gary Kasparov on My Great Predecessors Part I." >>>>This book is a collection of annotated games. Almost all of those games are in >>>>Chessbase's Megabase 2003. In preparation for the study of this book, I copied >>>>these games into a small database just for this hardcopy book. Then, when I >>>>read the book, I simply call up the game and follow it on the monitor as I read >>>>the book. This allows me to evaluate my own ideas using a chess engine. Doing >>>>this evaluation of my own ideas helps me to understand the inner workings of >>>>those games. Typically, I say to myself: "Why didn't White play XX-XX?" I >>>>play it on the computer and the engine quickly lets me know whether or not my >>>>idea is any good, and if not why not. >>>> >>>>That is what I would propose to do on the handheld. I would not do any database >>>>management on the handheld. Who would? >>> >>>In other words, a PGN reader. >>> >>>For this task, if you still fancy a PDA, the PocketPC is definitely the winner >>>as you could just copy the PGN file to it and use Grandmaster Chess >>>(http://www.pocketgrandmaster.com/ - my favourite) to work it. >>> >>>Whereas PalmOS is different; although it has many virtues it has no file system >>>(a deliberate design decision) and dealing with multiple games is difficult. >>> >>>What there would have to be is a PC application, acting as a conduit, to >>>synchronise each game in the PGN file to a different memo (a text scratchpad >>>provided as part of PalmOS); Chess Genius for Palm or Chess Tiger for Palm >>>already offer facilities to pick and choose from games stored as memos. >> >> >> >>Bob could probably do what he wants to do with Chess Tiger for PalmOS. >> >>All he needs to do is to copy/paste his PGN text to the "Palm Desktop >>application" on his PC, then put the Palm on the cradle and press the Hotsync >>button. >> >>On the Palm he starts Chess Tiger and loads the PGN. >> >>Then he starts walking thru the game and is able to play alternate moves and see >>what the program says by using the "analysis mode". This mode allows the user to >>move thru the game while the program constantly displays its opinion about the >>score and the best move in the positions, without ever playing a move itself. >> >>There is however a limitation that Bob needs to know: Chess Tiger for PalmOS >>will load neither the PGN comments nor the variations. It will only load the >>game as it as been played. >> >>This constraint applies to most PalmOS chess programs at this time. > >Thanks, much, for the information. It seems that Palm/Tiger would be useful >although not being able to load annotations is a disappointment. > >Bob D. One point that is not made clear here - for the Pocket PC , several chess appilcations (Pocket Grandmaster, Pocket Fritz 2 handle pgn files with annotations. A typcial Chess Informant PGN file (1 volume) annotated with about 1000 games will take up about 1 MB. Just copy the pgn file to your handheld and your in business. The Palm , as Chris mentions, requires you do copy each game indivually to a memo pad. It is much more tedious if you wanted to copy the entire CI Volume # 87 in pgn format to your Palm handheld- each game would have to done one at time. And the annotations would not be visible in the Palm. Mike >> >> >> Christophe >> >> >> >> >> >>>I don't think such a _standalone_ application exists, although it could probably >>>be easily written. (PocketChess - >>>http://www.handmark.com/products/detail.php?id=85 - does offer the facilities >>>I've described on PalmOS, but the playing program is of poor quality; despite >>>what you say you'll soon want to play the computer :) >>> >>>Alastair
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