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Subject: Re: Open letter to Chessbase 8 Programmers

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 03:40:49 09/15/03

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On September 14, 2003 at 22:13:25, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On September 14, 2003 at 18:10:14, Mike Hood wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 2003 at 21:30:52, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>
>>>On September 13, 2003 at 18:08:17, Mike Hood wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 12, 2003 at 11:53:18, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 12, 2003 at 10:08:29, Mike Hood wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>So why not incorporate the last remaining features of
>>>>>>Chessbase 8 into Fritz 9, add forget about ever updating Chessbase?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Comments welcome.....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Do you own ChessBase 8? Can you compare it to the Fritz GUI database
>>>>>possibilites? What are those "last remaining features of ChessBase" in your
>>>>>opinion?
>>>>>
>>>>>J.
>>>>
>>>>I do own Chessbase 8, but I never use it, because everything I need is possible
>>>>with Fritz. All that occurs to me at the moment that Chessbase offers extra is:
>>>>
>>>>* automated database updates of the newest games from the TWIC website
>>>>* better sorting/filtering capabilities
>>>>* creating database keys to speed up the search of large databases
>>>>
>>>>There might be more, but that's all I can think of. It's hardly worth the
>>>>existence of Chessbase as a distinct product. It's not a matter of Chessbase not
>>>>being good enough, the problem is that Fritz is too good!
>>>
>>>Different people use computer programs for different things.  If the things you
>>>would use chess database management software do not require a powerful database
>>>manager then that's perfectly OK.
>>>
>>>There are many other people who use MANY of the features of chess database
>>>management programs.  They are the ones who need this sophisticated software [or
>>>it's competitor].
>>>
>>>Obviously.
>>>
>>>Bob D.
>>
>>Point taken... but exactly what ARE these chess database management features
>>that Chessbase has but Fritz doesn't?
>
>There are many.  Here is an example:  Try to sort a game collection.  In CB8, in
>the drop-down view menu, there is a sort option.  CB8 allows you to sort the
>list in many different ways.  Once sorted, the game collection can then be
>copied into an empty database and the sort order will be retained in the new
>database even after CB8 is shut down.
>
>In the Fritz GUI, there is no equivalent capability.  [No sort under view.]
>
>That is a trivial example, but there are hundreds of such "trivial" examples.
>They add up.
>
>Bob D.

Thanks, Bob. I already knew this example. I played around with Chessbase 8 for a
while after I first received it, comparing it with Fritz 7 (the newest version
of Fritz at the time). I don't deny that Chessbase has useful features that are
missing in Fritz's database management. My question is: is there any reason why
all these features shouldn't be built into Fritz 9?



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