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Subject: Re: Open letter to Chessbase 8 Programmers

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 06:16:40 09/15/03

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On September 15, 2003 at 06:40:49, Mike Hood wrote:

>On September 14, 2003 at 22:13:25, Bob Durrett wrote:
>
>>On September 14, 2003 at 18:10:14, Mike Hood wrote:
>>
>>>On September 13, 2003 at 21:30:52, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 13, 2003 at 18:08:17, Mike Hood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 12, 2003 at 11:53:18, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 12, 2003 at 10:08:29, Mike Hood wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So why not incorporate the last remaining features of
>>>>>>>Chessbase 8 into Fritz 9, add forget about ever updating Chessbase?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Comments welcome.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you own ChessBase 8? Can you compare it to the Fritz GUI database
>>>>>>possibilites? What are those "last remaining features of ChessBase" in your
>>>>>>opinion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>J.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do own Chessbase 8, but I never use it, because everything I need is possible
>>>>>with Fritz. All that occurs to me at the moment that Chessbase offers extra is:
>>>>>
>>>>>* automated database updates of the newest games from the TWIC website
>>>>>* better sorting/filtering capabilities
>>>>>* creating database keys to speed up the search of large databases
>>>>>
>>>>>There might be more, but that's all I can think of. It's hardly worth the
>>>>>existence of Chessbase as a distinct product. It's not a matter of Chessbase not
>>>>>being good enough, the problem is that Fritz is too good!
>>>>
>>>>Different people use computer programs for different things.  If the things you
>>>>would use chess database management software do not require a powerful database
>>>>manager then that's perfectly OK.
>>>>
>>>>There are many other people who use MANY of the features of chess database
>>>>management programs.  They are the ones who need this sophisticated software [or
>>>>it's competitor].
>>>>
>>>>Obviously.
>>>>
>>>>Bob D.
>>>
>>>Point taken... but exactly what ARE these chess database management features
>>>that Chessbase has but Fritz doesn't?
>>
>>There are many.  Here is an example:  Try to sort a game collection.  In CB8, in
>>the drop-down view menu, there is a sort option.  CB8 allows you to sort the
>>list in many different ways.  Once sorted, the game collection can then be
>>copied into an empty database and the sort order will be retained in the new
>>database even after CB8 is shut down.
>>
>>In the Fritz GUI, there is no equivalent capability.  [No sort under view.]
>>
>>That is a trivial example, but there are hundreds of such "trivial" examples.
>>They add up.
>>
>>Bob D.
>
>Thanks, Bob. I already knew this example. I played around with Chessbase 8 for a
>while after I first received it, comparing it with Fritz 7 (the newest version
>of Fritz at the time). I don't deny that Chessbase has useful features that are
>missing in Fritz's database management. My question is: is there any reason why
>all these features shouldn't be built into Fritz 9?

Money?  : )

Bob D.



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