Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 07:37:18 09/15/03
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On September 15, 2003 at 09:11:25, emerson tan wrote: From deep blue log file: Nxe6 came from book trivially. Nxe6 is a well known win. h6 is very poor simply. Of course all books say 'unclear' and only against Qe7 they say it is a clear loss for black. However show me 1 GM that plays it. Oh wait a minute, long before that match Kasparov-Deep Blue, didn't kasparov co-author some books saying Nxe6 is a win for white? Kasparov never plays caro-kann and the computer is so bad, it always exchanges queens. See game before. So he simply didn't care going into a lost position. I bet he didn't even mind losing the match too much. He didn't in fact as his FIRST reaction showed at CNN minutes after losing. Only a few hours/day later when he realized he would not get a rematch from the company he had served so well, his reactions were furiously. --------------------------------------- --> 7. N1f3 <-- 33/111:6 --------------------------------------- Guessing Bd6 7(4) #[Qe2](29) 29 T=1 qd1e2 Ph7h6 ng5e4 Nf6e4n qe2e4N 8(6) #[Qe2](29) 29 T=4 qd1e2 Ph7h6 ng5e4 Nf6e4n bd3e4N Nd7f6 be4d3 Bc8d7 bc1e3 9(6) #[Qe2](29) 29 T=6 qd1e2 Ph7h6 ng5e4 Nf6e4n bd3e4N Nd7f6 be4d3 Bc8d7 bc1e3 10(6) #[Qe2](31) 31 T=40 qd1e2 Ph7h6 ng5e4 Nf6e4n bd3e4N Qd8c7 bc1d2 Nd7f6 be4d3 Bc8d7 11(6)<ch> 'h6' --------------------------------------- --> Ph7h6 <-- --------------------------------------- 31 T=93 qd1e2 --------------------------------------- --> 8. Nxe6 <-- 32/111:1 --------------------------------------- >I played a 24 game match between Shredder 6.02 and Hiarcs 7.32 with the >following opening. > >1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Ng5 Ngf6 6.Bd3 e6 7.N1f3 h6 8.Nxe6 > >Time control was 40/4hrs + 20/2hrs + 2hrs to finish on a 1.8 Ghz processor. > >Shredder played all the white games and Hiracs all the black games. The score >went 13-11 in Hiarcs favor. Only a couple of games were drawn. > >I choose Shredder 6.02 to have white because it likes whites position and >without an opening book, it will play the 8.Nxe6 sacrifice. Also, Shredder has a >positional learning. I choose Hiarcs for black solely because of its positional >learning. Positional learning is important in this one opening match since it >will be able to learn and improve its next play based on the same opening. > >Maybe 8.Nxe6 is not a forced win for white. Maybe Kasparov can study it and use >it in some high profile match against computers since most of the programmers >might put it in their books thinking its a forced win for white.
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