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Subject: Re: PostModernist vs Amateur

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 10:25:14 09/15/03

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On September 15, 2003 at 12:40:32, Will Singleton wrote:
>On September 15, 2003 at 10:05:31, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>Here's a game that was played last night on ICC. I particularly liked this game
>>because PM never once showed a negative score, despite being 2 pawns down for
>>some moves:
>
>Hmmm.. that's a bit like saying you liked the tornado because you escaped alive.

I liked the game because despite being two pawns down, PM never considered its
position to be dubious. I don't think its position was ever dubious, despite the
material deficit. I like games like that. I've seen lots and lots of cases where
PM has given up pawns for an attack that dissipates and is followed by a bad
loss. This wasn't one of those, which is why I liked it.

> That, imho, was a butt-ugly game.  It highlights both the tactical and

Nope. For butt-ugly, try the 149 move draw between Amateur and PM which preceded
the game I posted. I've not looked at it in detail, but the dead-drawn ending is
pretty horrible, the more so if you look at PM's logs; it sensibly offers draws
(which Amateur declined) several times but then suddenly thinks that it is more
than 0.20 pawn ahead and so stops offering draws. Ugh.


>positional shortcomings of both programs; other than that, it was great.  Thanks
>for posting!  (just kidding, Andrew.)
>
>A couple positions.  In the first, Amateur misses probably a forced draw (Rf8)
>due to overestimating its position, plus lack of sufficient depth.  (PM would
>also play g5 here, if the roles were reversed, btw.  Just so you know. :))

I think the idea is to not get into a position like this :-)

>After this, PM sort of stumbles toward victory.
>
>[D]2rNk1r1/3Rp3/1p4pp/p1q1p3/P1P2n2/1P3Q2/1K5P/3R4 b - - 0 36
>
>
>In another highlight, PM misses the winning Rxe7+, playing Qh7, which prolongs
>the agony for awhile.
>

Well, Qh7 is winning too of course, but you're right about Rxe7, which is far
quicker and also far more aesthetically pleasing. It takes PM 1m 35s on my
Athlon 1200 to switch to and stick with Rxe7.

>[D]2rNk3/3Rp3/1p3r1p/p3pQp1/P1P2n2/1P6/5q1P/K2R4 w - - 0 41
>
>I do hope no one runs a blunder-check on this game.
>
>>
>>[Event "ICS rated standard match"]
>>[Site "204.178.125.65"]
>>[Date "2003.09.15"]
>>[Round "-"]
>>[White "PostModernist"]
>>[Black "Amateur"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[WhiteElo "2442"]
>>[BlackElo "2476"]
>>[TimeControl "1800+5"]
>>
>>1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nd4 4. Bc4 g6 5. Nf3 Bg7 6. d3 Nc6 7. Be3 d6 8.
>>Qd2 Bd7 9. O-O-O Na5 10. e5 dxe5 11. Bxc5 Nxc4 12. dxc4 Qc7 13. Rhe1 Be6
>>14. Be3 a6 15. Ng5 Bxc4 16. b3 Be6 17. Nxe6 fxe6 18. Ne4 Nf6 19. Ng5 Qc6
>>20. f4 Nd7 21. fxe5 Bxe5 22. Bd4 Bxd4 23. Qxd4 e5 24. Qe3 Qxg2 25. Re2 Qc6
>>26. Qh3 Rc8 27. Kb1 h6 28. c4 b6 29. Ne6 Rg8 30. Red2 Nf6 31. Kb2 Nh5 32.
>>a4 a5 33. Nd8 Nf4 34. Qg4 Qc7 35. Rd7 Qc5 36. Qf3 g5 37. Qb7 Rg7 38. Qe4
>>Rg6 39. Qf5 Qf2+ 40. Ka1 Rf6 41. Qh7 Qc5 42. Ka2 Qf2+ 43. Ka3 Qc5+ 44. Ka2
>>Qf2+ 45. Ka3 Qc5+ 46. Kb2 Qf2+ 47. Ka1 Qc5 48. Kb2 Qf2+ 49. R1d2 Ng6 50.
>>Nb7 Rb8 51. Ka3 Qxd2 52. Rxd2 Rxb7 53. Qxh6 Rc7 54. Qxg5 Rc5 55. Rd1 Kf7
>>56. h4 e4 57. Rd5 Rcc6 58. Rd8 Rc5 59. Qh6 Ke6 60. Qe3 Kf7 61. Qxe4 Rh5 62.
>>Rb8 Rxh4 63. Qd5+ Kg7 64. Qb5 Nf8 65. Rxb6 Rxb6 66. Qxb6 Rh5 67. Qa7 Kf6
>>68. c5 Ne6 69. c6 Rf5 70. c7 Nxc7 71. Qxc7 Re5 72. b4 axb4+ 73. Kxb4 Re4+
>>74. Kb5 Re5+ 75. Qxe5+ Kxe5 76. a5 Kd6 77. Kb6
>>{Amateur resigns} 1-0
>>
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Andrew

Cheers

Andrew




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