Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:33:16 09/15/03
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On September 15, 2003 at 12:20:17, Drexel,Michael wrote: >On September 15, 2003 at 09:54:51, Jim Monaghan wrote: > >>On September 15, 2003 at 09:11:25, emerson tan wrote: >> >>>I played a 24 game match between Shredder 6.02 and Hiarcs 7.32 with the >>>following opening. >>> >>>1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Ng5 Ngf6 6.Bd3 e6 7.N1f3 h6 8.Nxe6 >>> >>>Time control was 40/4hrs + 20/2hrs + 2hrs to finish on a 1.8 Ghz processor. >>> >>>Shredder played all the white games and Hiracs all the black games. The score >>>went 13-11 in Hiarcs favor. Only a couple of games were drawn. >>> >>>I choose Shredder 6.02 to have white because it likes whites position and >>>without an opening book, it will play the 8.Nxe6 sacrifice. Also, Shredder has a >>>positional learning. I choose Hiarcs for black solely because of its positional >>>learning. Positional learning is important in this one opening match since it >>>will be able to learn and improve its next play based on the same opening. >>> >>>Maybe 8.Nxe6 is not a forced win for white. Maybe Kasparov can study it and use >>>it in some high profile match against computers since most of the programmers >>>might put it in their books thinking its a forced win for white. >> >>Interesting test. I think you've shown that the position after 8.Nxe6 is roughly >>equal when played by two opponents with near perfect board sight and no >>emotions. > >Near perfect board sight? :) > >Shredder 6 and Hiarcs 7.32 have in fact no idea what is going on here. >White has a long-lasting positional advantage for the piece and will finally win >material and the game. Nobody dares to play 7...h6? in Correspondence games >because it is suicide. > >This position is a "Buch mit 7 Siegeln" for a Computer :) >Shredder 7.04 gives high score for white but it does not play the best moves. > >Michael Some questions: 1)Did you beat programs with white after 7...h6? 2)Can you give examples when you claim that shredder7.04 does not play the best moves? I never analyzed the line because I do not play the opening with white or with black and my experience in tournament games is usually not in positions when one side sacrifice a piece. Uri
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