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Subject: Re: Question for users of Rebel and EOC

Author: Michael Yee

Date: 09:32:16 09/16/03

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On September 16, 2003 at 09:54:40, Eelco de Groot wrote:

>On September 13, 2003 at 16:29:06, Michael Yee wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'll probably be ordering Rebel 12 soon, but I can't decide whether to get the
>>download version or the CD which comes with EOC. Here are a few concrete
>>questions I have:
>>
>>(1) Does Rebel play better (or at least not worse) using EOC instead of its
>>normal opening book (if that's even possible)?
>>
>>(2) Can Rebel actually use EOC during a game (non-opening) as hinted at in
>>Alternative Goal 3 [http://www.rebel.nl/rebel10e.htm]?
>>
>>(3) Could you create your own "EOC" from a huge database of games and then let
>>Rebel use it in whatever special way it does [see question 2]?
>>
>>Thanks for any advice,
>>
>>Michael
>
>
>Hello Michael,
>
>Regarding making your own EOCs with Rebel 12, I think it would be a pioneering
>effort mostly!. No experience with that myself though so I can't say much about
>it. I do remember that some people have written about it on Rebel Board in the
>past and experimenting with making their own EOCs, but that was with older DOS
>versions so I don't know if any of that applies.
>
>I think the download version also can do that and has all the other options the
>CD-version has, but it just doesn't have the big EOC database, so that saves
>download time. At least that's what I'd assume Lokasoft have done.
>
>Yes, I do think Rebel can use EOC knowledge in game play. That has been possible
>also in the DOS versions.
>
>For me the idea that you can do "backwards analysis" by position learning, if
>that would be possible, would be an interesting use. But I believe for position
>learning it is not necessary to build an EOC. I would want to be able to switch
>it all off, especially for engine testing.
>
>To be honest, nothing to do with EOC, in time I hope that also all the database
>functions of ChessPartner will be further improved. With the prerelease version
>I don't seem to be able to delete games I put in a database. I know some people
>who liked to put their own games in Rebel DOS databases, made printouts of their
>results against all the various opponents they'd met at our chess club, made
>opening overviews and such. For clubplayers those features of Rebel for DOS
>where an attractive feature. I'm glad that in the final version there is among
>other thing limited support of older Rebel databases. Ed an Lex:that's great! A
>big reprogramming effort I think, to try to get older features to work in
>ChessPartner.
>
>Regards, Eelco


Hi Eelco,

Thanks for the info. I'm a relatively new user of Rebel (started tinkering with
free Rebel Decade and recently Rebel 12 DOS), and I didn't have any idea how
Rebel used EOC during search. But if Rebel just uses it like a kind of opening
book, I guess it wouldn't be a necessity for me.

Thanks again,

Michael



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